montreal ponies
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Anyone else disappointed by the numbers, particularly the curb weight? They touted as it having "the best power/weight ratio of any car on the road"... I really expected it to be 2800-2900lbs wet weight, with closer to 700hp.
Just doesn't make sense to me, to create such a hype (even if it did win LeMans), charge so much, when it is really only in the same ballpark as a 675/488. American made cars have always had a "bang for your buck" angle worked into them, but you can buy a 488 that is probably nearly as fast on track and faster in a straight line, for a lot less money... makes no sense to me.
Maybe I'm being too harsh on it, but I was expecting hypercar performance, aka P1/918/LaFerarri performance out of the new GT based on their claims and hype. I honestly don't know if it'll even take away some of the laptimes from the Viper ACR... and then they test it on some relatively unknown track up here in Canada lol guess the Nurburgring or Laguna Seca or VIR or Chuckwalla or any number of other tracks that people can instantly recognize weren't available :shrug:
PS. Anyone see the EPA fuel ratings? 11 city/ 18 highway LOL so much for being efficient... Honestly can't grasp how a turbo vehicle that is that light can suck down so much fuel. But at least it sounds decent for a V6 :lol:
OK. Thanks for the insults.Sometimes I feel like you spend your days actively planning and coming up with obtuse, asinine things to say.
To imply that there's really nothing different between the TTV6 in the GT and Raptor and "any other V6 shit box on the road" just indicates you're either utterly ignorant (and happily so) or an obnoxious troll.
I would love to see the GT versus the 918 and LaFerrari on a track. I bet they aren't that far apart.I'm not really surprised, the halo cars you describe are all 1MM some even pushing close to 2. At the end of the day Ford built this car the same way they built the original to compete at LeMans which they did. If you look at LeMans there was no P1/LaFerrari/918 counterpart.
Stat sheet comparo's i can see why some might be disappointed but i'm holding out to hear about the in car test drives and reviews. The active Aero and the on the fly suspension adjustments sound crazy. I think Raj said the car can change ride height by 2" between track and street mode, thats amazing. It could really be a supercar to enjoy on and off the track.
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/detroit-motor-show/meet-brand-new-ford-gtThe GT will exhibit one of the best power-to-weight ratios of any production car
I agree that the comparison between the hypercars and the GT may be extreme, but that is what I hoped for/expected based on the outrageous claims they made. When they said "we're chasing the best power/weight of any vehicle on the road", but claimed it only made "over 600hp", I was honestly initially expecting the GT to weight in the mid 2400-2600lb range in order to even come within reach of their claims. They made it seem like it was going to blow everyone's minds, but when it comes to the raw data, it just doesn't.I'm not really surprised, the halo cars you describe are all 1MM some even pushing close to 2. At the end of the day Ford built this car the same way they built the original to compete at LeMans which they did. If you look at LeMans there was no P1/LaFerrari/918 counterpart.
Stat sheet comparo's i can see why some might be disappointed but i'm holding out to hear about the in car test drives and reviews. The active Aero and the on the fly suspension adjustments sound crazy. I think Raj said the car can change ride height by 2" between track and street mode, thats amazing. It could really be a supercar to enjoy on and off the track.
On the EPA side, i was surprised there as well, not what i was expecting. It would never stop me from buying the car (if i could afford it) but i was more surprised from a marketing perspective. Ford has branded ecoboost as a power and efficiency brand, this halo car seems to only checks one box.
Definitely is a gorgeous car, no one can take that away from it. I just expected it to be 300-500lbs lighter than it is (road-ready weight) and also have closer to 700 hp with over 600 torque.I think they did over hype it a bit, but IMO the numbers are still pretty damn impressive. Let's not forget this is a Ford, the fact it got built is impressive to me. And no matter what, it is one damn sexy machine.
Thanks for the link, but Jamal Hameedi was quoted as stating the team was targeting "the best power to weight ratio of any vehicle on the market".Ok
I have to chime in here on the incorrect quoting of Ford. They NEVER said it would be the best power to weight ratios of a production vehicle. The said it would be one of the best power to weight ratios of any production vehicle on the market which it is. I've seen on multiple sites people cut that quote short by saying "the best power to weight ration of any production vehicle".
Here is the original statement
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/detroit-motor-show/meet-brand-new-ford-gt
i agree,there was no reason not to have over 700hp,and really make a big statement.:tsk::rant:I agree that the comparison between the hypercars and the GT may be extreme, but that is what I hoped for/expected based on the outrageous claims they made. When they said "we're chasing the best power/weight of any vehicle on the road", but claimed it only made "over 600hp", I was honestly initially expecting the GT to weight in the mid 2400-2600lb range in order to even come within reach of their claims. They made it seem like it was going to blow everyone's minds, but when it comes to the raw data, it just doesn't.
Then you take the repeated point that was driven home about lightweight materials, and how extremely lightweight the car is.... it is missing large portions of the back half of the car (buttresses) yet a 675LT is still lighter than it. Coming in at 3054lbs DRY is a fail IMO, considering it will weight near 3300 lbs once it is road ready.
If it was priced at 250K with these specs, I think I could understand it, but when you have offerings from exotic car makers like McLaren and Ferrari and Lamborghini that have cars that can very much so compete with the GT, while offering the exotic car brand experience and lets face it, MUCH more desirable engine options, the asking price of the GT is absurd. It is nowhere near as "ground breaking" as they would have lead us to believe. Rather it seems to be simply competitive in today's market in regards to performance.
I would take a 675LT/488 GTB/Aventador 750-SV any day of the week over the GT based on its specs if I had the money. At the end of the day, the performance numbers don't seem to justify the price, the brand logo doesn't justify the price, so what you are left with is basically Ford charging a ludicrous amount based on the history of the "Ford GT" knowing that they will get people to pay what they are asking.
I know that the performance isn't everything, that the driving experience plays a big role as well, but when something is touted consistently from a performance standpoint, I expect them to excel and over-achieve in that regard. I also believe that the cars I listed above would offer a more exciting driving experience, largely based on the types of engines they offer, which are simply more thrilling/exciting.
Definitely is a gorgeous car, no one can take that away from it. I just expected it to be 300-500lbs lighter than it is (road-ready weight) and also have closer to 700 hp with over 600 torque.
Over-hyped is putting it mildly.