For those who procharged or GSS, did it fix the low end torque issue?

[80FoxCoupe]

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[Andy13186]

Just pedal the car with a PD if you have to...

Doesnt work well if you are in auto mode though, thats why I always paddle shift.

 

[Wolfys11]

This really isn’t entirely true. A good tuner simply strips back a couple degrees of timing in the low and midrange to tame the torque, then let it fully eat at higher RPMs. I also run the tallest drag radial I can run too as that helps tame torque on the gearing side. And if that’s not enough my Smoothboost can run boost by gear too. But the Whipple has way more power under the curve and can definitely be faster all other things equal.

That said I suppose if you just bolt it on and don’t take the time to iron out the details, then yeah, you’ll be right. It’s not for everyone.

If your goal is to reduce torque that is available in the low and mid range to be comparable to a centri, then why not go for a centri?

Op wants a centri which is meant to be for setups that dont have low end power requirements, but treats it like an issue that is to be fixed. Its simply the characteristic of the setup

Thats the point im making. I know you can tune the whipple setups with smoothboost, but realistically the op has a complaint about whipple be

 

[Joshinator99]

If your goal is to reduce torque that is available in the low and mid range to be comparable to a centri, then why not go for a centri?

Op wants a centri which is meant to be for setups that dont have low end power requirements, but treats it like an issue that is to be fixed. Its simply the characteristic of the setup

Thats the point im making. I know you can tune the whipple setups with smoothboost, but realistically the op has a complaint about whipple be

Because you can simply tweak the timing and boost to maximize the setup. Even with a couple of degrees less timing to help calm things down in the low end, the Whipple will still produce more power under the curve by a good margin. Not sure why I’d want to give that up. If I only went to the drag strip and had a huge stall converter to get the centri blower moving, then that’s a completely different story.

This discussion reminds me of a quote by the late, great, John Lingenfelter: “Build torque in the power band where the car will spend most of its time.” Wise words!

 

[wingnutt]

This discussion reminds me of a quote by the late, great, John Lingenfelter: “Build torque in the power band where the car will spend most of its time.” Wise words!

meh…don’t tell that to current owner Ken and his crazy collection of Ferraris

 

[Wolfys11]

Because you can simply tweak the timing and boost to maximize the setup. Even with a couple of degrees less timing to help calm things down in the low end, the Whipple will still produce more power under the curve by a good margin. Not sure why I’d want to give that up. If I only went to the drag strip and had a huge stall converter to get the centri blower moving, then that’s a completely different story.

This discussion reminds me of a quote by the late, great, John Lingenfelter: “Build torque in the power band where the car will spend most of its time.” Wise words!

If youre driving on the street, low end torque becomes problematic sometimes which personally is the exact reason i went manual trans with ess as i plan on making 900whp but not have drag radials. A whipple would be hell to drive like that in the street

 

[Joshinator99]

If youre driving on the street, low end torque becomes problematic sometimes which personally is the exact reason i went manual trans with ess as i plan on making 900whp but not have drag radials. A whipple would be hell to drive like that in the street

It’s not. Mine makes 1066 WHP and my wife can drive it to get groceries if she wants. Read my previous post about tuning your timing in the ranges where you feel like you need to tame the torque down a bit.

 

[Wolfys11]

It’s not. Mine makes 1066 WHP and my wife can drive it to get groceries if she wants. Read my previous post about tuning your timing in the ranges where you feel like you need to tame the torque down a bit.

Your wife is driving the car easy to get groceries.
The op is driving the car spiritedly, two different scenarios. The point of not having or having power has nothing to do when you dont ever press the gas pedal. And yes you can tame the whipple down low to make it comparable to a centri, but to that point i rebut again, why buy a whipple to make it a centri, and why demand a centri to behave like a whipple

 

[GL95]

If youre driving on the street, low end torque becomes problematic sometimes which personally is the exact reason i went manual trans with ess as i plan on making 900whp but not have drag radials. A whipple would be hell to drive like that in the street

The ditch you go into is gonna laugh at you if you think you are handling 900hp without drag radials with any type of forced induction unless you are using a timing ramp

 

[80FoxCoupe]

Everyone will hold their ground on what they think is best. But how can you quantify it? @Wolfys11 and @Joshinator99 should race???

 

[Wolfys11]

The ditch you go into is gonna laugh at you if you think you are handling 900hp without drag radials with any type of forced induction unless you are using a timing ramp

My 675whp setup is doing fine currently on all seasons, and i plan on using 200w tires instead of radials
But hey when i get there we will see
I just hate the idea of slicks with rain

 

[Wolfys11]

Everyone will hold their ground on what they think is best. But how can you quantify it? @Wolfys11 and @Joshinator99 should race???

Its not about one on one racing. Its about how the driver plans to drive and wants to have their car work. Some like to floor it and have it work, some like the car to burn rubber through 6th gear. I personally like something in between, something that wont kill me but i stillneed to respect

 

[Mach1Racer]

Everyone will hold their ground on what they think is best. But how can you quantify it? @Wolfys11 and @Joshinator99 should race???

You know what? This is now getting interesting…

 

[80FoxCoupe]

Its not about one on one racing. Its about how the driver plans to drive and wants to have their car work. Some like to floor it and have it work, some like the car to burn rubber through 6th gear. I personally like something in between, something that wont kill me but i stillneed to respect

How will we find out which is better? Your setup vs his?

 

[Joshinator99]

Your wife is driving the car easy to get groceries.
The op is driving the car spiritedly, two different scenarios. The point of not having or having power has nothing to do when you dont ever press the gas pedal. And yes you can tame the whipple down low to make it comparable to a centri, but to that point i rebut again, why buy a whipple to make it a centri, and why demand a centri to behave like a whipple

Dude this just isn’t true. A guy who just bolts on a Whipple is getting. 550-600 WHP. If you’re running NT555R2 or better out back, that is NOT a burnout machine. It’s just going to go on anything resembling a clean dry road. So again, the Whipple makes way more power under the curve on a street car so that’s why I’d choose PD blower over centri for a street/strip car. That’s just my 2 cents, you do you.

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