Fishtail, noob problems

[Pnasty]

bunch of sissies, pin it to win it.

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[paul123]

bunch of sissies, pin it to win it.

:lol:


Of course, the requirement is that he doesn't wreck his new car :headbonk:

 

[Pnasty]

:lol:


Of course, the requirement is that he doesn't wreck his new car :headbonk:

I would say thats a priority :lol:

 

[Plimmer]

Lol, let those ponies run free and mash that throttle.

BUT, if this is your 1st rwd car you better learn who to counter steer and catch oversteer.

Go find a big industrial parking lot with no poles and curbs and go play around. Wet is better as well, cuz it will slide around at slower speeds and wear the tires less.

 

[GTP]

and get some better and wider tires!

^This.

BUT, if this is your 1st rwd car you better learn who to counter steer and catch oversteer.

Go find a big industrial parking lot with no poles and curbs and go play around. Wet is better as well, cuz it will slide around at slower speeds and wear the tires less.

^And this.
I have the same problem with my GT automatic. 8" all season tires are just not enough to floor it in 1st or 2nd on the street. Well, unless both directions of a 4-lane road are clear and you drive straddling the yellow centerline. :lol:

Also, once the rear breaks loose, if you suddenly lift on the throttle, you can swap ends quickly (no I haven't done that yet!).

I recommend practicing more with 2nd gear, since that is your 15 - 60mph gear. Roll on the throttle coming around a turn, expecting the rears to slide a little. Lift gradually to get that under control.

And, yeah, find a big empty parking lot after a rain.

The car on 8" A/S tires is actually pretty stable in the higher speed turns. Where the consequences are even bigger. :doh:

 

[paul123]

Also, once the rear breaks loose, if you suddenly lift on the throttle, you can swap ends quickly (no I haven't done that yet!).

I did not know that. Makes you wonder why Ford didn't include a MyKey Rev Limiter. If I was more cynical, I would imagine they are not totally averse to a beginner driver breaking traction and swapping ends. Then they can sell him another one

 

[GTP]

I did not know that. Makes you wonder why Ford didn't include a MyKey Rev Limiter. If I was more cynical, I would imagine they are not totally averse to a beginner driver breaking traction and swapping ends. Then they can sell him another one

The owner's manual has a decent writeup of the traction control and ESC systems - it is worth reading. Ford cautions you that these systems do not prevent driver actions from creating a dangerous situation.

So, turn off traction control for the wet parking lot practice. But on the street, stay in Normal drive mode at first, then graduate to Sport mode. I do not recommend Traction Off mode for street driving on 8" A/S tires. What's the point?

Autocross is the cheapest, safest, and least risky way to explore the limits of your car and your skills.

 

[GTP]

Here is a sad Mustang story and perfect storm of

• late at night
• wet road conditions
• 20-yr old driver
• 3 passengers
• street racing
• fishtailing
• 3 innocent lives lost in the other car

http://www.wthr.com/story/30823944/multiple-injuries-reported-at-south-side-crash

We have been following this story, which is local to us, since Christmas Eve.

addle:

 

[jasonstang]

Here is a sad Mustang story and perfect storm of

• late at night
• wet road conditions
• 20-yr old driver
• 3 passengers
• street racing
• fishtailing
• 3 innocent lives lost in the other car

http://www.wthr.com/story/30823944/multiple-injuries-reported-at-south-side-crash

We have been following this story, which is local to us, since Christmas Eve.

addle:

How does an SUV struck by a sports car ended up dying all of its passengers. No seat belts?

 

[GTP]

How does an SUV struck by a sports car ended up dying all of its passengers. No seat belts?

We have been wondering that, too.

If you look at the photos, the Mustang came out with front and rear damage, but the Trailblazer was unrecognizable.

There is some doubt as to how high the Mustang got in the air. If high enough, then it could have come down on the SUV greenhouse. Notice that the Mustang has a lot of wheel and underbody damage.

 

[paul123]

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/chevrolet/trailblazer-4-door-suv

Side impact rating = Marginal

and that's only for 35-40mph test

if the Mustang was moving at 60 + mph,

 

[Sammzway]

Coming from a Versa, you have a lot to learn. This shouldn't be anyones first sports car because it's equipped with way too much power.

I'm coming from a 370z and during my 4 months of ownership thus far, I spun out once and slid across 3 lanes. Mind you I was turning and was doing about 15mph and went in about 70% throttle when I straightened out. Boy did I underestimate the power and capabilities. I fish tailed immediately and my biggest mistake was driving with the advance trac off. Thank god I knew not to touch the brakes and counter steer.

Respect the power and always play it safe. There's no need to floor these cars and keep your traction assist on at all times until you're a pro at handling the car.


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[jasonstang]

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/chevrolet/trailblazer-4-door-suv

Side impact rating = Marginal

and that's only for 35-40mph test

if the Mustang was moving at 60 + mph,

That is one shockingly unsafe car for a 2009.

 

[jasonstang]

We have been wondering that, too.

If you look at the photos, the Mustang came out with front and rear damage, but the Trailblazer was unrecognizable.

There is some doubt as to how high the Mustang got in the air. If high enough, then it could have come down on the SUV greenhouse. Notice that the Mustang has a lot of wheel and underbody damage.

It does look like the car got on top of the Chevy. Might've struck the windshield.

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