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When I can spin the tires on a dry road with my 110 hp Mini Cooper, it's time to swap the summer tires for the snows. They spun today. It's time.
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When I can spin the tires on a dry road with my 110 hp Mini Cooper, it's time to swap the summer tires for the snows. They spun today. It's time.
If you have an open diff, that's really easy to do in a fwd car. Even my old mk1 focus was easy to spin the tires. But if you have the means to change your tires then that's your prerogative. I think my point and several others is that while it's highly recommended to do what you and many others here do, it's not a requirement as long as you have some common sense and can take it easy.
 

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If you have an open diff, that's really easy to do in a fwd car. Even my old mk1 focus was easy to spin the tires. But if you have the means to change your tires then that's your prerogative. I think my point and several others is that while it's highly recommended to do what you and many others here do, it's not a requirement as long as you have some common sense and can take it easy.
Sure is nice when the thing slows down like it should though.

I've panic stopped for: deer, dogs, kids on bicycle, 16 year old girls who were too much in a hurry to wait at stop sign, unidentified idiot drivers, moron who was too lazy to hook up brake lights on his trailer, brain farts, and probably some other things I'm not thinking of.

Am lucky as there have never been serious injuries to a human, but minor damage to car(s) and major damage to animals has occurred.

Just saying, rubber suited to the weather is worthwhile to me.
 

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Marjen,

I get the same thing - just cold tires. Well, that and I personally think the P-Zeros are utter garbage.
Where in CT are you? I haven't seen another Mustang around yet. Would be cool to meet up sometime.
 

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I think all of the folks from SC and VA and the like should probably stop and realize that the OP isn't only dealing with the occasional morning at 20 degrees. He will have continuous snow all winter as well, given the forecasts for this winter.

If you have the 20s, I'd probably swap out for some winter tires or a set of winter rims/tires (based on my quick research for my own 20" swap - a whole set of rims and tires at 17" are about the same price as the winter tires alone at the 20" size). The peace of mind with the snow will be enough to justify it for me.
 

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Sure is nice when the thing slows down like it should though.

I've panic stopped for: deer, dogs, kids on bicycle, 16 year old girls who were too much in a hurry to wait at stop sign, unidentified idiot drivers, moron who was too lazy to hook up brake lights on his trailer, brain farts, and probably some other things I'm not thinking of.

Am lucky as there have never been serious injuries to a human, but minor damage to car(s) and major damage to animals has occurred.

Just saying, rubber suited to the weather is worthwhile to me.
Stopping is the much better argument than talking about spinning tires :thumbsup:

Marjen,

I get the same thing - just cold tires. Well, that and I personally think the P-Zeros are utter garbage.
Where in CT are you? I haven't seen another Mustang around yet. Would be cool to meet up sometime.
I think all of the folks from SC and VA and the like should probably stop and realize that the OP isn't only dealing with the occasional morning at 20 degrees. He will have continuous snow all winter as well, given the forecasts for this winter.
This individual right here who lives in SC is from the north, and has driven in snow plenty, and with summer tires I might add. Like I said, I'm not advocating you should use them...and I don't want to keep repeating myself either on the point I am making.

Pretty sure this thread is about OP thinking he has an issue and not continuous use of summer tires in the snow. My personal opinion...he's harder on the gas than he thinks he is. Then again he has the EB so it should be easier to keep control of the tires.
 

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Called Pirelli a few months ago. Immediately after talking to them, about why Summer only's are not recommended if never driving in the snow. I posted that I WTB a set of wheels, so I can install AS/Winter's and have the luxury of just swapping back & forth in my garage, instead of going to a shop to have tires swapped.

Although, they started out telling me how dangerous it was to drive on summers in the cold, I was still thinking, yeah right you just wanna prevent lawsuits...When they started talking about tire compounds & other technical rubber science and the effect on it during cold + strain, grip, cracking etc. Well it was over my head, but the point was received "Don't Drive On Summer Only's Below 45°"-->:tsk:

Don't wanna gamble my tires will be able to handle all situations that arise during all kinds of driving, especially, when some kid in a POS thinks he can outrun me, well-->:shrug:
 

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Called Michelin a few months ago. :)

" I will summarize all information we have in regards to summer tires in cold temperatures. If you own a car with summer tires, refrain from using it at all in cold temperatures as the tires may crack. Leave it parked. Beyond cracking concerns, summer tires have diminished grip below 40º F on dry and wet roads and virtually little to no grip on snow and ice. Michelin recommends using an All Season tire, or a winter tire when the temperatures are below 45º F to avoid any damage to the tires or vehicle. For additional information on summer tires in cold temperatures, I have included the following link to an article related to this subject:http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/news/2014/03/performance-tires-crack-winter-cracking/index.htm


We appreciate your business and thank you xxxx for choosing Michelin."

Make of it what you will :). I thought the link was interesting.
 

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This individual right here who lives in SC is from the north, and has driven in snow plenty, and with summer tires I might add. Like I said, I'm not advocating you should use them...and I don't want to keep repeating myself either on the point I am making.

Pretty sure this thread is about OP thinking he has an issue and not continuous use of summer tires in the snow. My personal opinion...he's harder on the gas than he thinks he is. Then again he has the EB so it should be easier to keep control of the tires.
Oh, I never disagreed with the point you were making. Hell, I drove a Ranger one winter with Toyo Proxxes. Wasn't fun, but I survived. I'm just saying cold tires can hop a little, and that I'm not a fan of Pirelli.
 

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I'm wondering if keeping your car in a garage will negate the issue at all. Living in North Florida I'm not too worried about it at all since I can count the number of freezing days we get per year on both hands (if that) but the past two days have been really cold (morning lows around 21) and when I've started my car the ambient temperature in my garage has read right at 50 both days. I don't have my 2015 yet to be able to tell, but I figure with the tires starting off from a reasonable temp that even if the air temperature outside is below 40 I should still get decent traction.
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