Experienced manual drivers please step in..

[jasonstang]

Don't ever use a "handbrake" (parking/emergency brake) for a hill.

While holding the service brake, let the clutch out to the point the engine begins to load, then move your foot to the gas and go. Might not work as easily on a 3-cyl Fiesta, but this method works for anything with more than 100 HP.

Hill assist works a little too well in these cars if you have any previous experience with 3-pedals. I didn't realize it was enabled from the factory and stalled against the brakes at the first 3 lights after I bought it (no test drive)... they were all uphill stops.

The hill start is a bit abrupt that you have to give plenty gas.

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[kz]

Don't ever use a "handbrake" (parking/emergency brake) for a hill.

While holding the service brake, let the clutch out to the point the engine begins to load, then move your foot to the gas and go.

What's a service brake ?

You always use handbrake for this, this is _required_ in some countries to demonstrate on a driving test on an actual hill.

 

[TexasRebel]

What's a service brake ?

You always use handbrake for this, this is _required_ in some countries to demonstrate on a driving test on an actual hill.

The service brake is that thing between the accelerator and clutch. It is the brake that you use while the vehicle is in service. Just calling it a "brake" is ambiguous as most vehicles have at least two different braking systems (service, parking, emergency, transmission, compression, &c.)

Political requirements aren't always based on best practice. There is exactly one reason to apply your parking/emergency brake while driving... I'll let you guess that one. ...well maybe two if your country of residence makes you play that game to get a license.

...what do you do when the parking brake is a push-to-release 4th pedal? :lol:

 

[kz]

The service brake is that thing between the accelerator and clutch. It is the brake that you use while the vehicle is in service. Just calling it a "brake" is ambiguous as most vehicles have at least two different braking systems (service, parking, emergency, transmission, compression, &c.)

Political requirements aren't always based on best practice. There is exactly one reason to apply your parking/emergency brake while driving... I'll let you guess that one. ...well maybe two if your country of residence makes you play that game to get a license.

...what do you do when the parking brake is a push-to-release 4th pedal?

Is there a manual transmission car that has one ? And this have nothing to do with political requirements and everything with safety - it is the safe method to start on the incline and there is exactly zero reasons not use it (you said never but forgot to add why).

Your method to release clutch while holding a brake pedal (there's your missing term) is plain stupid. Plenty of cars will stall if you don't add gas so that's a great recommendation for a new to manual driver stuck in a traffic jam on a steep hill... Ever drove in a city traffic ?

 

[TooSoonJunior]

Is there a manual transmission car that has one ? And this have nothing to do with political requirements and everything with safety - it is the safe method to start on the incline and there is exactly zero reasons not use it (you said never but forgot to add why).

Your method to release clutch while holding a brake pedal (there's your missing term) is plain stupid. Plenty of cars will stall if you don't add gas so that's a great recommendation for a new to manual driver stuck in a traffic jam on a steep hill... Ever drove in a city traffic ?

Its not stupid at all, but is however the very DEFINITION of riding the clutch. Once you get the feel for your clutch, you can certainly hold the car on a hill or even start off from a stop and give zero gas and never stall by riding the clutch at the very beginning of its engagement point.

 

[Rambl3r]

Hill assist is only activated on very steep inclines and you have to push the clutch in while your other foot is still on the brake. So its press and hold brake, engage clutch, let off break pedal and give plenty of gas.

If you let off the break pedal before the clutch, the car is going to roll back regardless if hill assist is on.

 

[kz]

Its not stupid at all, but is however the very DEFINITION of riding the clutch. Once you get the feel for your clutch, you can certainly hold the car on a hill or even start off from a stop and give zero gas and never stall by riding the clutch at the very beginning of its engagement point.

Yes - you can - but again - these comments sound like you never drove a manual up the steep incline. The whole reason to use the handbrake is to take the randomness of clutch engagement point and the risk of engine stalling / car slipping backwards out of the process. That's what it's for, why the hell not use it ?

 

[TexasRebel]

Yes - you can - but again - these comments sound like you never drove a manual up the steep incline. The whole reason to use the handbrake is to take the randomness of clutch engagement point and the risk of engine stalling / car slipping backwards out of the process. That's what it's for, why the hell not use it ?

The parking brake is for parking.

There is no randomness to it. You put a load on the engine before taking your foot off of the service brake. That way you don't need 3-hands and 2-feet...

 

[Mustang_Lou]

This is going to turn into another "my supercharger is better than yours" thread ... I can just feel it.

 

[TexasRebel]

This is going to turn into another "my supercharger is better than yours" thread ... I can just feel it.

I just think it's interesting what Botswana requires to get a license to drive a motor vehicle.

 

[jasonstang]

Why is it so hard just clutch in, gas pedal all the way, and then dump the clutch.

 

[kz]

Why is it so hard just clutch in, gas pedal all the way, and then dump the clutch.

And how do you do it with 2 feet and one of them on the brake pedal ?

 

[jasonstang]

And how do you do it with 2 feet and one of them on the brake pedal ?

Car has hill start assist.

 

[TexasRebel]

And how do you do it with 2 feet and one of them on the brake pedal ?

motorcycles have it right...

independent service brakes
the parking brake is a metal spike or triangle
the accelerator, one service brake, and clutch are attached to the steering mechanism

 

[turbosc297]

Hill start assist- Make sure the car is in gear with the clutch to the floor before letting off the brake. Hill start assist works in that way on my driveway, which is a very very light incline

As for the transmission, all the hate is hard to comprehend. Like any other, they have their weak points. BUT in 12k miles of hard driving, plenty of no lifts at 8k rpm, spinning into 3rd etc, I've missed ONE shift. These transmissions provide solid feedback when entering a gear, very similar to my two BMWs of the past (2006 and 2003 3 series). The stock shifter works just fine, I've got mine paired with poly motor mounts and transmission mount insert, there is no flex or lockouts when under load, no uncertainties as to which gear I'm entering, it's a great performing transmission for me being FBO 90hp over stock. It's quite expected for things to break for guys who want to add 300+bhp on stock parts.

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