Engine Debate

[69mach1-395]

Here is a completely different view point; I guess it matters more if it is your only stang. I would consider the EB to be a DD and if someone gives me crap, I'll pull out my 475 hp/trq 69 Mach1 and say 'what's up with that'.
My current DD is 4 door sedan with turbo 4, but the back 2 doors are just being wasted. I'd rather it be an EB stang.

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[K-Roll302]

Okay, here's another question. Someone mentioned that if I wait a year, GTs will be $10,000 cheaper than they are now. What kind of condition, mileage and depreciation would net a 2015 GT of any kind a $10,000 hit?

 

[Malikona]

Okay, here's another question. Someone mentioned that if I wait a year, GTs will be $10,000 cheaper than they are now. What kind of condition, mileage and depreciation would net a 2015 GT of any kind a $10,000 hit?

Side impact damage?

 

[K-Roll302]

Side impact damage?

Well, yeah! :headbonk:

But in all seriousness, is it even possible for a car to depreciate that much so quickly?

 

[Charles147]

Okay, here's another question. Someone mentioned that if I wait a year, GTs will be $10,000 cheaper than they are now. What kind of condition, mileage and depreciation would net a 2015 GT of any kind a $10,000 hit?

Wait a year to find out.

 

[HalfMoon]

Well, yeah! :headbonk:

But in all seriousness, is it even possible for a car to depreciate that much so quickly?

Possible? Sure.

Easy if you were to include the sales taxes paid when new.

 

[dude]

I wouldn't get an Ecoboost. I am on a BMW lease with a Turbo 4 M-Sport and it's quite boring. Fast, but boring. I'd like some growl. I'm still debating whether or not to get a V6 or pay around $7-8k extra for the V8 (base trim in both). Sometime next year I need to make the decision.

According to fueleconomy.gov, yearly gas cost difference between the 2015 V6 and V8 is minimal (~ $200-300 a year).

Regarding depreciation of a first year model, I don't think it will depreciate that much as a last year model in the cycle. A used 2014 should depreciate a lot more than a used 2015, since 2015 is the new style.

 

[69mach1-395]

I wouldn't get an Ecoboost...
According to fueleconomy.gov, yearly gas cost difference between the 2015 V6 and V8 is minimal (~ $200-300 a year).

I just ran the numbers on that site between an EB and GT and got $2750 per year cost diff...that is huge.

 

[mkenny28]

I wouldn't get an Ecoboost. I am on a BMW lease with a Turbo 4 M-Sport and it's quite boring. Fast, but boring. I'd like some growl. I'm still debating whether or not to get a V6 or pay around $7-8k extra for the V8 (base trim in both). Sometime next year I need to make the decision.

According to fueleconomy.gov, yearly gas cost difference between the 2015 V6 and V8 is minimal (~ $200-300 a year).

Regarding depreciation of a first year model, I don't think it will depreciate that much as a last year model in the cycle. A used 2014 should depreciate a lot more than a used 2015, since 2015 is the new style.

The depreciation was about the same on the 2005 Mustang and 2006-2010 mustang up to a certain point. After a few years it seemed the 2005 held its value longer; I only know this because I checked my KBB every year when I had my 2005 Mustang GT Premium Convertible. I finally just sold her to the dealership who turned around and put her up for sale for 12995.00. Not bad for a 70k mile 10 year old stock car with some dings (KBB rated as Good condition) and hiccups.

 

[Grintch]

If you want a performance car get the V8. If you want an economy car, get a Fiesta. If you want a sporty economy car, get a Fiesta ST.

 

[dude]

I just ran the numbers on that site between an EB and GT and got $2750 per year cost diff...that is huge.

That's impossible. Maybe that is over 5 years?

Based on 45% highway, 55% city driving, 15,000 annual miles and current fuel prices:
Annual Fuel Cost EcoBoost: $1,650
Annual Fuel Cost V6: $2,050
Annual Fuel Cost GT: $2,300

Based on 75% highway, 25% city driving, 15,000 annual miles and current fuel prices:
Annual Fuel Cost EcoBoost: $1,550
Annual Fuel Cost V6: $1,750
Annual Fuel Cost GT: $1,950

 

[JimmyTwoTimes]

That's impossible. Maybe that is over 5 years?

Based on 45% highway, 55% city driving, 15,000 annual miles and current fuel prices:
Annual Fuel Cost EcoBoost: $1,650
Annual Fuel Cost V6: $2,050
Annual Fuel Cost GT: $2,300

Based on 75% highway, 25% city driving, 15,000 annual miles and current fuel prices:
Annual Fuel Cost EcoBoost: $1,550
Annual Fuel Cost V6: $1,750
Annual Fuel Cost GT: $1,950

It depends on your personalized usage. For me, it's showing a difference in annual fuel costs between the EcoBoost and GT of $1,750.00. Annual fuel cost for a GT is $6,450.00; annual fuel cost for the EcoBoost is $4,700.00

That's based on current 93-octane prices where I am ($4.14/gallon) coupled with 25,000 miles per year, 90% of which is in stop-and-go traffic.

Now, that wouldn't go for me personally -- my annual mileage is about 11,000, so you can cut those numbers by 55% -- but it's conceivable that somebody else could have that cost differential.

 

[Renner]

Well, yeah! :headbonk:



But in all seriousness, is it even possible for a car to depreciate that much so quickly?

Yes look at the 2014 GT

 

[Renner]

If you want a performance car get the V8. If you want an economy car, get a Fiesta. If you want a sporty economy car, get a Fiesta ST.

Oh please. There are plenty of none V8 cars that can be used as performance cars. V8 is not the end all be all anymore. My GTI, before I put it back to stock, would have smoked a 2015 GT on the drag strip and that is with less than $3,500 with of work done.

We live in an age of tech...old timers won't let go of the GOTTA HAVE V8 thing and that's fine but don't discount the progress that is being made to allow smaller engine to run as performance cars.

All mustangs are great cars and now that there are 3 models out it makes it even easier for more people to see that as they have more choices now when buying one. The ecoboost is going to bring in a whole new crowd of car guys using this platform that would not have been interested in a mustang before.

 

[69mach1-395]

That's impossible. Maybe that is over 5 years?

Based on 45% highway, 55% city driving, 15,000 annual miles and current fuel prices:
Annual Fuel Cost EcoBoost: $1,650
Annual Fuel Cost V6: $2,050
Annual Fuel Cost GT: $2,300

Based on 75% highway, 25% city driving, 15,000 annual miles and current fuel prices:
Annual Fuel Cost EcoBoost: $1,550
Annual Fuel Cost V6: $1,750
Annual Fuel Cost GT: $1,950

All I did was use the comparison feature of the website provided. I don't know how they break it up, but it does compare apples to apples.
They show how much it would cost compared to the average car. The gt was 2500 more and the eb was 250 less, thus the 2750.
BTW, from what I've seen turbo cars gain a lot more than NA cars with basic mods. I think I saw one tuner claim 420 ft-lb torque with just a tune...

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