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Hello! Assuming there will be a lot of new owners that haven't ventured into a turbo'd engine and how to go about upgrades I thought I would give a brief tutorial. This list is generated based on what has been discussed on the forums and a good mod path for power/reliability. I reframed from naming companies to buy parts from, you just need to do a lot of research on the companies offering whatever part you are looking for and compare to find what works best for you.

1. Oil Catch Can-Spark Plugs-Oil Should be your first upgrades. The catch can is a preventative maintenance measure to help prevent oil build up in your intake system due to CCV/PCV feeding blow by oil onto your intake valves. Spark plugs should be gapped at 0.027-28" and use NGK or Denso iridium 1-2 steps colder, must have if tuning. Get rid of stock oil for full synthetic; rotella t6 diesel, amsoil, Pennzoil ultra, mobil 1 etc etc.

2. Tuner Cobb(buy from maperformance for 1 free tune) SCT, Lund Gauge, Livernois tuner are some of the tuning devices/sources and there are multiple tuners to get custom tunes from. Check with all the tuning options and choose the one you find best to go with. You can run canned/OTS tunes ready to go. You also don't need the other bolt on mods before getting a tuner. Getting a custom and dyno tune is the most optimal means for getting a tune specifically for your car and setup once you get bolt ons.

3. Intercooler Also known as a FMIC (front mount intercooler) is what cools down the hot turbo air going to the engine, some have already been made by some of the aftermarket companies and have shown great gains. The EB has really bad heatsoak on the stock unit and can result in power loss on really hot days or repeated hard pulls. You can go for a kit with the hard pipes and a BOV too when getting an intercooler but not necessary. IC thread: http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15352

4. Exhaust Go for at least a catback system for back pressure and gains due to removing the restrictive factory resonator/mufflers. A full turbo back exhaust with the catalytic converter removed will be the best performance but will be significantly louder and have quite a fuel smell if you have a strait through exhaust, if you have chamber mufflers at the end of the exhaust you will not be ridiculously loud and not so much fuel smell. Go for 3" diameter. Exhaust thread: http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14511

5. Air Intake An air intake will give a turbo engine a small bump in power, also will increase the noticeable sound of the turbo spool and be able to hear the stock by pass valve dump compressed air back into the intake system due to the recirculation of our bvp setup. Air intake thread: http://www.mustang6g.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16435

6. BOV/BPV-Hard Pipes Stock bypass and blow off valves usually suck and start to leak boost down the road, you want to upgrade to a good name brand quality BOV(you can recirculate the air or vent to atmosphere, either will work for our engines). Most likely get a hard pipe kit to and replace the plastic stock bits on cold and hot side of the intercooler. There looks to be some options to just replace the stock by pass valve, just research and choose whichever you feel.

7. Suspension/Tires Unless you track the car the stock suspension is plenty good, especially if you have a performance package. Larger rear tire widths (275+) will be greatly beneficial to getting the power to the ground. Make sure the tire is designed for good grip, plenty of tire options out there.

8. Clutch Kit Should upgrade at some point if you are laying down quite a bit power over stock, car has not been out long enough to gauge how much or how long the stock unit can hold up.

9. Rear Gear Increases low end acceleration, limits high end speed, increases rpm at cruising. There has been some debate on this so I will update later as to what would be optimal for the rear gear. For now it is safe to say the 3.55 included in the performance package.

10. STS Short throw shifter, help reduce shifting but is more resistance, upgrade bushing too if they are applicable.

11. Meth injection Running meth is absolutely great for turbo'd engines, helps lower combustion temperatures, prevent pre detonation, runs fuel at higher octane. Plenty of kits out there, best results have your car tuned once meth kit is installed and functional.

12. E85 Fuel E85 fuel has become fairly popular in some areas, however it is not readily available depending on your location, killer power gains can be made. Need a custom tune for this.

This is for the most part the main ways to upgrade a turbo engine, you can get into pulleys, cams/porting and all that but really your next stop if you've gone this far is....

13. Turbo Upgrade There will be plenty of turbo upgrade kits coming down the road, this is where you can make the big numbers. The huge space in our engines bay due to the bays designed to fit V engines give us plenty of room for bigger turbos. Get kits that include all the necessary parts. Our engines have some good internals so it will be interesting to see how much the stock engine holds up. Currently 400 whp/wtq seems to be a safe limit to shot for on the stock internals.

Thanks for the read and good luck upgrading. Might be some typos or not grammatically correct sentences. This again is just my opinion for an upgrade path. Please debate over my choices and your personal builds below and have a good day! I will do updates over time as I see information on the forums and in this tread.
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I will beg to differ on the diff ratio until someone upgrades the turbo and shifts the powerband to the right. For now, we are seriously low end torquey motors, and should use this to our advantage.

I only argue to a point, because swapping out to say a 3.15 or so would kill our acceleration a bit.
 

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I think a tune should be #1 or #2. Definitely before intake/downpipe/exhaust.

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The list is pretty good, but I don't necessarily agree with the order (or a couple choices).

No point in a downpipe if you plan to put a bigger turbo on later unless you want to take the chance of buying parts twice.

BOV is also not necessary until you upgrade the turbo. The stock turbo is pretty much maxed out and the stock BOV works fine on the stock turbo.

Rear gear may or may not be helpful. The MT-82 in the Ecoboost already has shorter gearing than the GT and with the 3.55 from the PP combined with the huge torque from the tune you'll be burning the wheels off (just one example, could be different with other combinations).

Just a couple things, I could probably write more and debate what I think should go where, but the list itself isn't bad.

EDIT: You also forgot fuel system upgrade which is going to be real important on these motors.
 

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MT-82 for the ecoboost only has shorter first and second. Third and forth for the gt are shorter.
Fuel system upgrade will not be important until a bigger turbo comes along, and hopefully (should) be included in the bigger turbo kit.
 

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I'm curious about inter cooler and meth injection working together. Since they both basically do the same thing (cool intake air) do people typically go with one or both?
 

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I'm curious about inter cooler and meth injection working together. Since they both basically do the same thing (cool intake air) do people typically go with one or both?
Both. Meth and HPFP upgrades are typically more aligned with eachother, moreso than Meth and Intercooler. Meth allows you to supplement inadequate fuel systems to get more power past the bottleneck that the fuel system presents.
 

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I disagree about Cobb and bama being the only "go to" tuning solutions; bama uses SCT software and there are many tuners out there.
 

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Your theory on gears with a turbo is debatable as well, no way I would ever use a 410 or 373 with the 6r80 tranny.
 

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MT-82 for the ecoboost only has shorter first and second. Third and forth for the gt are shorter.
Fuel system upgrade will not be important until a bigger turbo comes along, and hopefully (should) be included in the bigger turbo kit.
According to a couple guys around here they've already maxed out the fuel system still running the stock turbo and they didn't have full bolt-ons.

You are right about the transmission, although 3rd is nearly identical. 5th is obviously the same, and 6th is shorter on the Ecoboost. Are you saying a short rear gear would be beneficial or just stating facts?
 

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I disagree about Cobb and bama being the only "go to" tuning solutions; bama uses SCT software and there are many tuners out there.
Agree, Livernois, Bama, FFTEC, Cobb, MAP, WMS, Unleashed (probably forgetting a few) are all valid options for tunes.
 

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I don't fully agree with this post, where's suspension and fatter tires? We will all take our own different path for sure and this post was helpful nonetheless.
 

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#1 Tune
#2 Intercooler
#3 Meth
#4 Exhaust
#5 CAI (if so desired)

For real power:

Shortblock
Turbo
Fuel upgrade, if possible. If not, bigger meth jets and pure meth.
 

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#1 Tune
#2 Intercooler
#3 Meth
#4 Exhaust
#5 CAI (if so desired)
This is probably my path, all while keeping daily driver friendly :). oil catch can #1 though
 

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#1 Tune
#2 Intercooler
#3 Meth
#4 Exhaust
#5 CAI (if so desired)

For real power:

Shortblock
Turbo
Fuel upgrade, if possible. If not, bigger meth jets and pure meth.
This will probably be the best path for right now, only thing would be stopping before any exhaust/CAI modification if you are planning on an aftermarket turbo. I doubt they'd change the turbine interface requiring a new downpipe, but, you never know. Then the inlet to the compressor will grow, and I'm not sure how many CAI will be able to adapt to that.
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