Eco boost questions?

[BrianGT2015]

me and the wife looking at adding a 15 eco boost convertible mustang to the collection. How much boost can you run on the stock turbos and are generally fun cars. I love the pp 5.0 we got.

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[Vicr]

Depends on the climate conditions.

 

[dgc333]

The Ecoboost is tuned using torque targets. The better the air the lower the boost required to meet the torque targets. Generally you will see peak boost numbers in the 18 to 20 psi on a stock tune.

The turbo on the Ecoboost is quite small for good low/mid range power. It gets very inefficient with boost levels over 25 psi, most tuners limit the boost to 22 to 23 psi.

 

[BrianGT2015]

The Ecoboost is tuned using torque targets. The better the air the lower the boost required to meet the torque targets. Generally you will see peak boost numbers in the 18 to 20 psi on a stock tune.

The turbo on the Ecoboost is quite small for good low/mid range power. It gets very inefficient with boost levels over 25 psi, most tuners limit the boost to 22 to 23 psi.

How much can you make on a simple bolt on eco? Anyway to flatten the horse power and torque curve? I notice they start high and slowly fall

 

[dgc333]

The general consensus is 400 WHP is about it before you need a stronger block.

The shape of the torque curve is a function of the small turbo. If you want more power on the top end you need a larger turbo.

 

[BrianGT2015]

This is primarily the wife's car. I got a 2015 GT performance pack. I figured on hers I would do simple intake and exhaust intercooler upgrades. Then might put a slightly bigger turbo.

The general consensus is 400 WHP is about it before you need a stronger block.

The shape of the torque curve is a function of the small turbo. If you want more power on the top end you need a larger turbo.

 

[TurboNub]

This is primarily the wife's car. I got a 2015 GT performance pack. I figured on hers I would do simple intake and exhaust intercooler upgrades. Then might put a slightly bigger turbo.

Slightly bigger turbo isnt needed as you wont be able to use the power it provides. (I wanted the NZXT turbo but did my research and you really cant use the full potential because of the weak block.) Full tuned bolt on eco and Im running stock gts. Anymore power than 400 whp and you will definitely crack your block.

 

[Vicr]

Slightly bigger turbo isnt needed as you wont be able to use the power it provides. (I wanted the NZXT turbo but did my research and you really cant use the full potential because of the weak block.) Full tuned bolt on eco and Im running stock gts. Anymore power than 400 whp and you will definitely crack your block.

That is definitely up to debate. There are plenty of threads here and on the Mustang Ecoboost forum that contradict that statement and have documentation to back it

 

[Cardude99]

That is definitely up to debate. There are plenty of threads here and on the Mustang Ecoboost forum that contradict that statement and have documentation to back it

But is it worth the risk? The potential financial burden it can create?

 

[TurboNub]

That is definitely up to debate. There are plenty of threads here and on the Mustang Ecoboost forum that contradict that statement and have documentation to back it

The thing is I asked for data on the bigger turbo along with plenty of other people and no one provided anything. The guy who owns the company kept on saying the same thing but never provided any kind of proof from his profound statements. I literally told him provide me with dyno charts and engine logs and I'll buy the turbo on the spot. He then deleted all comments from the thread and didnt reply again lol.

 

[Vicr]

But is it worth the risk? The potential financial burden it can create?

There's a private Facebook group called "Let's Blow Up Some Ecoboosts" those guys don't seem to have any financial issues building new motors and modding constantly.

 

[Cardude99]

There's a private Facebook group called "Let's Blow Up Some Ecoboosts" those guys don't seem to have any financial issues building new motors and modding constantly.

Not everyone is them, I was not referring to them, but the average person like the guy that started this thread

 

[BrianGT2015]

Not everyone is them, I was not referring to them, but the average person like the guy that started this thread

Yes, I am very much the average person who can not afford to just keep breaking stuff. I mean I know there is a risk everytime you play. However, I am not just lighting 100 dollar bills on fire and pissing on them to put them out.

 

[Chef jpd]

Keep it close to stock and you will have no problems.
See if Hertz and Avis in California are having blown engines in the rentals. NOT.

 

[FreePenguin]

Keep it close to stock and you will have no problems.
See if Hertz and Avis in California are having blown engines in the rentals. NOT.

Never thought about that actually, and you know people are stomping them to death on 87. I wouldn't fill with premium if I didn't have too. I am sure one blows here and there, factory defect though. Not from the user.

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