EB Mustang Tuning Progression

[RubyRedBoost]

Any power #s?

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[Livernois Motorsports]

For those of you that want a sneak peek, here is the link to our site!

http://www.livernoismotorsports.com/products/LIVERNOIS-MOTORSPORTS-EXCLUSIVE-2015%252b-FORD-MUSTANG-ECOBOOST-THUNDERSTORM-DOWNPIPE-AND-COMPLETE-EXHAUST-UPGRADE.html

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

Any power #s? ����

We have not yet had the opportunity to put all configurations onto our car and dyno them all.

 

[dragonacc]

Is that the final pricing on your website or a place holder?

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

Is that the final pricing on your website or a place holder?

The pricing for each configuration is correct.

 

[Mikeiscoo2]

Ah, yes. Ok. I was not putting that together. LOL. I never see above 180s on mine. I have a PP car though.

Mike

i find that hard to believe.. i have the PP and mine car isn't warmed up till 190...

 

[mbreinin]

i find that hard to believe.. i have the PP and mine car isn't warmed up till 190...

I am telling you what I see on my gauge. Cylinder Head temp sits at 185. I could go back and review my datalogs if you would like to know what the temp is at the end of a 1/4 mile pull. Why would I make this up? Do I need to go video it for you as proof? :headbonk:

Mike

 

[mbreinin]

Here is a datalog from the track. It begins with me sitting at the tree, after doing a burnout and getting the car nice and hot. It was 189 at the tree. It went up to 198 by the end of the 1/4 mile. While driving around, my temps are 185-187. If I had time to let the car really cool down, I would have started with a colder temp. I am struggling to see how a 10 degree colder thermostat is going to really make more power. I would like to see empirical evidence of this.

 

[mbreinin]

Hahaha when trolling goes wrong I also see temps over 190 in my PP

I wonder why mine is running cooler than average? I live in New Orleans...it is not like I am in North Dakota or something. I am not complaining.

Mike

 

[RubyRedBoost]

My operating temps are the same but my lead foot doesnt help.

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

Here is a datalog from the track. It begins with me sitting at the tree, after doing a burnout and getting the car nice and hot. It was 189 at the tree. It went up to 198 by the end of the 1/4 mile. While driving around, my temps are 185-187. If I had time to let the car really cool down, I would have started with a colder temp. I am struggling to see how a 10 degree colder thermostat is going to really make more power. I would like to see empirical evidence of this.

The thermostat is closer to 20° cooler than stock actually, and this has been proven countless times on countless platforms over the years. The old mistruth about heat makes power is just that. Why does anyone think the 5.0 Mustang uses a 180 stat, while the trucks used a 194? Or why all of the EcoBoost engines use a cooler 180 stat across the line? The lower stat temps are making more power, and therefor being used in applications where power output is of the utmost importance.

 

[mbreinin]

The thermostat is closer to 20* cooler than stock actually, and this has been proven countless times on countless platforms over the years. The old mistruth about heat makes power is just that. Why does anyone think the 5.0 mustang uses a 180 stat, while the trucks used a 194? Or why all of the EcoBoost engines use a cooler 180 stat across the line? The lower stat temps are making more power, and therefor being used in applications where power output is of the utmost importance.

I was actually responding to the guy who said my car could not possibly be running at the temps I was saying it was running at.

I have never been a fan of cars that ran hot. However, I would still like to see some actual proof that your thermostat results in more power. You guys have a dyno, you have a car. How about you test it and provide real hard data? Get the car up to operating temp with a stock thermostat and do a pull, then repeat with your thermostat. Post the dyno graphs. If there is a difference that is more than negligible, you have proven the value of your product.

I will buy one if it does something as I am looking for real gains for my car.

Mike

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

Well, we have just that from every other platform that we support in the EcoBoost world, We are working on our Thunderstorm and Windstorm upgrades for the car now, so it might be a week or so before we can post that, but that's an easy test that we have done before. What vehicles would you like to see the proof from?

We have:

Taurus SHO
F150
Explorer Sport
Flex EcoBoost
MKT
MKS
Fusion
Escape

and likely more.

The biggest area of improvement is consistency. The ability to maintain a cooler temp more frequently is an often overlooked benefit as well. It is much easier to keep the vehicle making power longer if you are starting in a lower temp zone already. But, as with anything, we are happy to show the proof from what we sell and make

 

[mbreinin]

Well, we have just that from every other platform that we support in the EcoBoost world, We are working on our thunderstorm and windstorm upgrades for the car now, so it might be a week or so before we can post that, but that's an easy test that we have done before. What vehicles would you like to see the proof from?

We have:

Taurus SHO
F150
Explorer Sport
Flex EcoBoost
MKT
MKS
Fusion
Escape

and likely more.

The biggest area of improvement is consistency. The ability to maintain a cooler temp more frequently is an often overlooked benefit as well. It is much easier to keep the vehicle making power longer if you are starting in a lower temp zone already. But, as with anything, we are happy to show the proof from what we sell and make

Just this platform. I am sure it applies to others as well, but I want to see it for this car.

Mike

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

Just this platform. I am sure it applies to others as well, but I want to see it for this car.

Mike

Like previously stated, it might be a week or so before we can post that, but that's an easy test that we have done before. As we are currently in the middle of releasing a bunch of other performance mods for the platform.

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