E85 tune question

[WildHorse]

Thanks for the info helps a lot how much additional HP do you normally see I’m at 700 with my eb stage 2 would e70 get me up to 800

Like from 93 to E85? No. 745 maybe.

your fuel trims will take care of the stoich change.

8% trim is a bit much, no ?

When did they start offering flex tunes for boost?

They don't. However if you really wanna blow your shit up, get a flex tune. There's a reason why no manufacture offer a flex set up on any boosted vehicle. Short terms spikes up, knock sensors go ape, BOOM.

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[Stage_3]

Water/meth injection works just as good

I was told if the kit fails, you're in trouble.
Is it true not many Mustang tuners will touch a water/meth injected car??

 

[Sins550]

They don't. However if you really wanna blow your shit up, get a flex tune. There's a reason why no manufacture offer a flex set up on any boosted vehicle. Short terms spikes up, knock sensors go ape, BOOM.

Why does this seem like this is a problem only for the Mustang world though? Mopar and Chevy seem to have the options to do this, and in the import world flex fuel and boost is regular/expected stuff done a billion times over with no issues. No sensor setups we can use? No tuners interested in trying? Is a $,$$$ Motec system the only way?

 

[WildHorse]

Why does this seem like this is a problem only for the Mustang world though? Mopar and Chevy seem to have the options to do this, and in the import world flex fuel and boost is regular/expected stuff done a billion times over with no issues

for instance ? Any specific cars you can list?

 

[Sins550]

for instance ? Any specific cars you can list?

Boosted G35/G37/Z, GTR, Corvette, Hellcat, Supra, Evo, ZL1, M3/M4, Q60, etc. Pretty much anything with a motor except us lol. The only exception is FathouseFab with a $$$$ Motec. Boost + Flex fuel is a pretty old practice, just confused as to why we're so late/potentially may never see this without throwing tons of money at it, especially coming from a Ford platform as they've been into flex fuel for a long time now, probably before anyone else aside from Koenigsegg. So yeah, just wondering why we don't have options is all.

 

[WildHorse]

Wow. I've been outta the loop on other manufactures. Thanks for the education.

 

[Sins550]

Wow. I've been outta the loop on other manufactures. Thanks for the education.

Yeah, maybe one day we could join them. Would be way more convenient than looking like a chemist at every gas station lol.

 

[Jackson1320]

I was told if the kit fails, you're in trouble.
Is it true not many Mustang tuners will touch a water/meth injected car??

Don’t let it fail. Run A redundant pump and a lot of tuners will tune it. Especially with a redundant pump

 

[Stage_3]

Don’t let it fail. Run A redundant pump and a lot of tuners will tune it. Especially with a redundant pump

What is a redudant pump?
I'm guessing a back-up pump?? Do many people run those redundant pumps?

 

[beefcake]

def a good choice, fore is the best in the business and we are their #1 dealer and have great forums specials.

the cars widebands can compensate for fueling up to a point. typically when you get over 60% or so e85, you reap most of the benefits.

the cars will have build in knock sensors, so if they are not happy , they will pull timing if the octane is low. the built in widebands will also help adjust fuel up to about 20%



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[Jackson1320]

What is a redudant pump?
I'm guessing a back-up pump?? Do many people run those redundant pumps?

I run two pumps. If one ever fails I’m safe

 

[ProChargerTECH]

I was told if the kit fails, you're in trouble.
Is it true not many Mustang tuners will touch a water/meth injected car??

I run many 1000+ HP cars on Meth systems. Haven't lost a motor in 15 years from it.... all comes down to quality install, quality tune, and a customer knowing the limits and how to fill and service those systems. (keeping quality M1 in the tank, cleaning the filters, cleaning the nozzles, etc)

 

[Gregory347]

I run two pumps. If one ever fails I’m safe

please give more details on plumbing and wiring for the 2 pump setup

 

[Stage_3]

I run many 1000+ HP cars on Meth systems. Haven't lost a motor in 15 years from it.... all comes down to quality install, quality tune, and a customer knowing the limits and how to fill and service those systems. (keeping quality M1 in the tank, cleaning the filters, cleaning the nozzles, etc)

Thank you for the info.
I know nothing about these kits, just what I've been reading/told by word of mouth.

I would love to go E85, but we don't really have that out here. Meth is always another option.
Thank you.

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