Do wider fronts increase tramlining?

[Bartly]

I've seen reference in other threads that a wider square setup improves handling, but have also seen mentioning that wider front tires also increase tramlining. Wondering if it's wise to go with a staggered setup for this reason. I have factory 8.5 wheels and already notice when my car follows the grooves in the roads and really don't want to go with a setup that makes this worse. It's not bad with the factory setup, just would like to avoid making it worse since wheels cost so much. I'm thinking a 10" wheel (maybe even wider) for the rear since I'd like to improve grip, now just stuck on what size to get on the fronts.
Can anyone give their experience with this. Thanks.

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[wildcatgoal]

It may a little, especially depending on the tire and air pressure. Nitto Invo tramlined like hell. Cooper Zeon tramlines less/same as the stock Pirelli.

 

[Paul@PKAUTODESIGN]

I've seen reference in other threads that a wider square setup improves handling, but have also seen mentioning that wider front tires also increase tramlining. Wondering if it's wise to go with a staggered setup for this reason. I have factory 8.5 wheels and already notice when my car follows the grooves in the roads and really don't want to go with a setup that makes this worse. It's not bad with the factory setup, just would like to avoid making it worse since wheels cost so much. I'm thinking a 10" wheel (maybe even wider) for the rear since I'd like to improve grip, now just stuck on what size to get on the fronts.
Can anyone give their experience with this. Thanks.

It can to be very honest but not by much. It just depends for instance I use a 305/325. Combo on my car and I have that occur at times but it's not often and it's manageable.


Now I like wide setups and a majority of the guys I've setup here I do wide applications with wide tires.


It looks good and the car feels more stable

 

[NightmareMoon]

I'm on 285 MPSS in the front and I really didn't notice any increase in tramlining on normal roads. If you get to the grooved stripped stuff, sure it tramlines, but most cars will on that type of surface.

I bet tramlining it has a lot more to do with tread design and your alignment toe than just tread width.

 

[Paul@PKAUTODESIGN]

I'm on 285 MPSS in the front and I really didn't notice any increase in tramlining on normal roads. If you get to the grooved stripped stuff, sure it tramlines, but most cars will on that type of surface.

I bet tramlining it has a lot more to do with tread design and your alignment toe than just tread width.

tread design for sure.

 

[Commbubba19]

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=47


I truly believe the road itself is the biggest contributor to tramlining.

Think of it this way. Picture a bike tire on a flat road. Spin the tire and then as it leans, what happens, you change direction in the direction of the lean.

Now flip the road and tire. The tire is flat and now the road has a curve to it. Same thing happens. As the tire sees a greater dip or curve in the road, it will want to tramline or pull in that direction.

The tirerack link above goes into a great more detail. Factors such as tread design, sidewall stiffness, tire pressure, tire section width, alignment, etc all have impact on the symptoms of tramlining.

 

[Bartly]

Thanks for giving your thoughts on it. I do agree the roads defects play a huge role. I also have experienced it with different tread design/condition on the same size tire on my Jeep. Just wasn't sure how much width plays a role. Thanks.

 

[Paul@PKAUTODESIGN]

Thanks for giving your thoughts on it. I do agree the roads defects play a huge role. I also have experienced it with different tread design/condition on the same size tire on my Jeep. Just wasn't sure how much width plays a role. Thanks.

The siZes being considered won't affect it too much

 

[Cascadia_302]

I went from 255's to 285's (square) and have noticed a minor increase in tire feedback, l wouldn't consider it actual Trammlining though.

 

[mvp90805]

wide makes car look manly! ya dig

 

[whtbt1.88]

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=47


I truly believe the road itself is the biggest contributor to tramlining.

Think of it this way. Picture a bike tire on a flat road. Spin the tire and then as it leans, what happens, you change direction in the direction of the lean.

Now flip the road and tire. The tire is flat and now the road has a curve to it. Same thing happens. As the tire sees a greater dip or curve in the road, it will want to tramline or pull in that direction.

The tirerack link above goes into a great more detail. Factors such as tread design, sidewall stiffness, tire pressure, tire section width, alignment, etc all have impact on the symptoms of tramlining.

Growing up where I did, tramlining had a whole different meaning....

 

[American]

I went up to a 19x10 with 285/35 up front and noticed no tram-lining increase. Running Continental DW tires.

I did notice a huge improvement in braking though

 

[Paul@PKAUTODESIGN]

I went up to a 19x10 with 285/35 up front and noticed no tram-lining increase. Running Continental DW tires.

I did notice a huge improvement in braking though

Your setup came out spot on brotha

 

[Agent_S550]

Add a half a degree of caster and it will help. Also you can work with toe and camber to help with it as well. It's not always the tires fault

 

[Paul@PKAUTODESIGN]

Add a half a degree of caster and it will help. Also you can work with toe and camber to help with it as well. It's not always the tires fault

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