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Magneride is better PERIOD. Its more durable, you get stronger "GT350" knuckles in it b/c when you put it in sport mode you need the extra strength. Everyone who has MR swears by its advantages. Its more comfortable when you want it to be, and in sport modes its as good or better than aftermarket shocks.

Now if there are other reasons like wrong color, other options MISSING, then I wouldn't get it. But to get other options for free considering you're getting $9k off you're really getting MR for free. Normally, the best you get off is about $4-7k. So you're easily getting that $1,700 option for free.

I'd get the car, IF it has all the other options that you want.
C-Rizzle (is that your "real name" or a "NOLA Rap Name?"),

Your opinion is noted; however, you, nor anyone else can say "MR is better PERIOD", because you, nor anyone else, knows how, when and where I will drive the car nor does anyone else know what is best for me. So your logic and rationale is flawed from the beginning in this erroneous presumption. And MR may have the "stronger GT350 knuckles" but, MR hasn't been out and road/field tested long enough/enough miles by mustang consumers to definitively proclaim, "MR is better PERIOD." That is true...PERIOD.

And since I am not "everybody", I don't care that "everybody" says MR is great...I will be driving (and paying for) the car...not "everybody."
Just as Millhouse said in an earlier post, more often than not, the roads and driving conditions where I live don't require MR and doesn't merit paying for MR nor does MR merit the calculated risk of an expensive out-of-warranty repair in the future.

For many consumers such as me, it doesn't matter what the discount on the car is or if an option is basically being provided at no cost from the manufacturer, if the car isn't the correct car...in all its attributes...then it is the incorrect car to purchase. I won't purchase a car I don't like or enjoy (been there...done that before...it was a mistake). Bottom-Line-Up-Front (BLUF): I don't want MR and I am not purchasing a 'Stang equipped with MR. The dealer could discount the car 15K...sorry, not interested. I would always know I purchased a car I didn't want...and money can't change that fact. :headbang::):cheers:
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I don't want MR and I am not purchasing a 'Stang equipped with MR. The dealer could discount the car 15K...sorry, not interested. I would always know I purchased a car I didn't want...and money can't change that fact. :headbang::):cheers:
I get it. Your mind is closed and you don't care what people say. I can tell you that Magneride is awesome on the street because it reduces the body motions of the car under acceleration, deceleration, cornering, etc. and that won't matter. You aren't even willing to try cars with and without Magneride to see for yourself what the differences are.

You take a risk when you ask for opinions that people will give them to you. I normally would stay out of it, but I can't even explain how much I love Magneride. I'm so glad my car has it. It doesn't matter whether the roads are smooth or rough - it's the other advantages that really have sold me on Magneride.

You do have a good point about potential cost of repairs down the road. It's a concern if you keep cars for a long time. That would be the only possible reason I would avoid Magneride. However, if you can afford a new Mustang I think you won't have a problem replacing Magneride shocks years down the road if they fail.
 

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OP, you know exactly what you want. At the end of the day, it is your life, your preferences, and ultimately your regrets if you opt for something you don’t really want. Why have a thread asking for opinions if you are already set on what you want, no ifs ands or buts? Why waste the dealers time negotiating a price if you know 100% you have absolutely no intention of buying that car? Order the spec that you want and be happy with it, and enjoy the hell out of it when you have it! But don’t expect a heavy discount ordering a ‘19 out the door. New model years tend to be closer to MSRP unless they are selling slowly.
 
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I get it. Your mind is closed and you don't care what people say. I can tell you that Magneride is awesome on the street because it reduces the body motions of the car under acceleration, deceleration, cornering, etc. and that won't matter. You aren't even willing to try cars with and without Magneride to see for yourself what the differences are.

You take a risk when you ask for opinions that people will give them to you. I normally would stay out of it, but I can't even explain how much I love Magneride. I'm so glad my car has it. It doesn't matter whether the roads are smooth or rough - it's the other advantages that really have sold me on Magneride.

You do have a good point about potential cost of repairs down the road. It's a concern if you keep cars for a long time. That would be the only possible reason I would avoid Magneride. However, if you can afford a new Mustang I think you won't have a problem replacing Magneride shocks years down the road if they fail.

Hack,

I have read your posts for the 3+ years, so I will "cut you some slack" on the closed mind comment...you are an intelligent "poster" and nearly always on "point"...but, you are off the mark on this one. I would say what you, and others, don't (can't? won't?) realize is I don't have a "closed mind", rather, I have an "informed mind." I understand what MR is, what is does and what it provides...and in my area and driving, I have assessed it is unnecessary for my driving requirements/needs. How is that having "a closed mind?"

I would assert that those who continue to "beat the drum" and bemoan the merits of MR, despite a plethora of information from me describing why I don't want/need MR, are the individuals with "closed minds", due to their inability to understand and accept MR isn't the correct option for me...and for many others. Your "closed mind" characterization may be applied both ways...give it some thought, you will see the logic and rational of my argument...and that it is correct in its application.

And yes, you are correct; if I purchased a 'Stang with MR and it required an expensive repair down the road, I could afford it. But why do I want to take that risk to repair an option I don't want in the first place? And I tend to keep my 'Stangs a long time as well. Thanks for your observations and input Hack..much appreciated. :cheers:
 
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OP, you know exactly what you want. At the end of the day, it is your life, your preferences, and ultimately your regrets if you opt for something you don’t really want. Why have a thread asking for opinions if you are already set on what you want, no ifs ands or buts? Why waste the dealers time negotiating a price if you know 100% you have absolutely no intention of buying that car? Order the spec that you want and be happy with it, and enjoy the hell out of it when you have it! But don’t expect a heavy discount ordering a ‘19 out the door. New model years tend to be closer to MSRP unless they are selling slowly.
hcappie,

Thanks for your input and observations. As for a "heavy discount", the dealer just, literally five minutes ago, emailed me back. They offered 8300.00 off the car...a 2019...custom ordered. So I guess it depends on the dealership. I will press, and wager I will get, the $8500 I asked for. I am good that way...
 

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hcappie,

Thanks for your input and observations. As for a "heavy discount", the dealer just, literally five minutes ago, emailed me back. They offered 8300.00 off the car...a 2019...custom ordered. So I guess it depends on the dealership. I will press, and wager I will get, the $8500 I asked for. I am good that way...
Wow that’s awesome! Go for it!
 

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not necessary != not better

I do want to know your dealer though for some years down the road in the future so I can get $10-12k off as the prices will inevitably continue to climb!
 
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not necessary != not better

I do want to know your dealer though for some years down the road in the future so I can get $10-12k off as the prices will inevitably continue to climb!

Nagare,

Sarcasm...nice...I rather like sarcasm myself. Good deals are out there...you just have to find a large, high volume dealer who will sell you the car you want for a good price. There isn't any "secret" to it: research, email a few dealers and put them in competition with each other and see what happens. The last mustang I purchased (from Akins Ford in Georgia) had a starting discount of $8K. By the time I negotiated them to $8500, then added my military and college student discount, the car was discounted at $9500 off of MSRP. So "mock: if you elect to do so, I will continue to research, negotiate and get great deals when I buy new cars!
 
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Magneriders, let's keep it as our secret, eh?
Like a decent sized one under the trousers.
HAH! I laughed out loud when I read this! Thanks Dr. Grabster...I needed a good laugh this evening.
 

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I don't have a "closed mind", rather, I have an "informed mind."
Thanks for your observations and input Hack..much appreciated. :cheers:
Thanks for the direct reply. As long as you have driven both and you have a feel for the differences - then I was definitely off the mark with my "closed mind" comment. I thought you had just read some comments on the internet and made your decision. That was my mistake.

:cheers: :ford:
 

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millhouse; Again said:
If we can agree that MR does a better job of keeping the tires in contact with the road surface than regular dampeners, there is an argument that it is inherently better for everyone.

MR should improve braking, acceleration, and cornering in all conditions, because it helps control weight transfer. That it can help smooth out rough roads is a side benefit imo.
 

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Food for thought, the MY2018 PP1 with magneride stops a WHOPPING 5 feet shorter than the 2015 Performance Pack. Let's not forget that the 2018 sports the far superior PS4 tires. Around the streets of willow the MY2018 PP1 was a WHOPPING 0.3 seconds faster than the MY15 Performance Pack. That magneride is really working overtime isn't it?

Some of you still aren't getting it. Where magneride shines is giving the ability to damping potholes and rough roads while maintaining civility. It's not the must have for anyone that drives on smooth roads on a regular basis, nor will it necessarily relate to faster lap times. You wan't something that helps lap times? Add better pads and wider/sticker tires.
 

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If we can agree that MR does a better job of keeping the tires in contact with the road surface than regular dampeners, there is an argument that it is inherently better for everyone.

MR should improve braking, acceleration, and cornering in all conditions, because it helps control weight transfer. That it can help smooth out rough roads is a side benefit imo.
That's the problem, it doesn't help braking and acceleration and cornering in all conditions....it helps it when the roads are less than perfect. People use to bitch and moan on solid axles mustangs, but they handled DAMN well on a road coarse.

Drive a both magneride and non on the roads around here and you'll be left with the same "meh" impression as I had. They just aren't worth it for a lot of us.
 

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Nagare,

Sarcasm...nice...I rather like sarcasm myself. Good deals are out there...you just have to find a large, high volume dealer who will sell you the car you want for a good price. There isn't any "secret" to it: research, email a few dealers and put them in competition with each other and see what happens. The last mustang I purchased (from Akins Ford in Georgia) had a starting discount of $8K. By the time I negotiated them to $8500, then added my military and college student discount, the car was discounted at $9500 off of MSRP. So "mock: if you elect to do so, I will continue to research, negotiate and get great deals when I buy new cars!
There was no sarcasm in my post, I genuinely like to know where you guys get these massive deals because dealers around me didn't even want to go down on my V6 and I was pissed when I found this forum and saw tales of everyone getting their GT PPs for under $30k OTD. And as the price continues to climb on GTs, the discounts should as well, hence the $10-12k by the time I would be purchasing one at least 5 years down the road.
 

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Come down here to the south and you’ll see more times than not magneride simply isn’t needed. FYI, motortrend absolutely demoralized the PP1 with magneride. There is more to a suspension than just shocks.

Glad to know the upstate has such fine roads.


Here in Columbia the roads are the suck. Did not used to be that way but our government has failed us miserably in road upkeep.


Looking forward to a 2019 with Magneride....of course most cars will seem like a cushion compared to the RS.
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