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I may be ordering some from you soon too pending a friggin dyno sheet showing some reasonable gains! 30+whp and I'm in!
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Its gonna be hard to see where the cams show gaines when i get mine back next week. I have alot of other parts installed at the same time that will also show gains. But i think its safe to say stage 3 cams will yield at least 30rwhp!
 

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Its gonna be hard to see where the cams show gaines when i get mine back next week. I have alot of other parts installed at the same time that will also show gains. But i think its safe to say stage 3 cams will yield at least 30rwhp!
If you don'the mind me asking, what was the install cost for all of that?
 

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If you don'the mind me asking, what was the install cost for all of that?
I will just say a n/a build aint cheap, especially when you buy all the best parts and have every part installed by a shop. All said and done its as much as installing a whipple sc yourself without all the supporting mods. There are many ways to cut costs like installing most of the stuff yourself, which i don't have the time to do, But it all worth it because i love this shit!
 

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Its gonna be hard to see where the cams show gaines when i get mine back next week. I have alot of other parts installed at the same time that will also show gains. But i think its safe to say stage 3 cams will yield at least 30rwhp!
With having most of the same power producing mods I have, I can still make a comparison. If you make north of 480whp then I will be convinced that the cams may be worth it.:cheers:
 

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I will just say a n/a build aint cheap, especially when you buy all the best parts and have every part installed by a shop. All said and done its as much as installing a whipple sc yourself without all the supporting mods. There are many ways to cut costs like installing most of the stuff yourself, which i don't have the time to do, But it all worth it because i love this shit!
That's actually not that bad. I personally would never install a whipple before I installed a full ARH exhaust, OPG, Dampener, and half-shafts, and I don't even drag. At that point, the cost is double the price of a whipple. The fact is that I really don't want to spend more than $7500 on mods for this car. Anything more would be better saved for a 7th gen shelby.
 

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With having most of the same power producing mods I have, I can still make a comparison. If you make north of 480whp then I will be convinced that the cams may be worth it.:cheers:
But i wont be on e-85 , just 93 octane with lucas octane booster , theres no e85 near me, id have to drive a distance to get some!
 

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But i wont be on e-85 , just 93 octane with lucas octane booster , theres no e85 near me, id have to drive a distance to get some!
Well 93 is usually about 10whp shy of e85 in my experience as well as others. Unfortunately I believe you are going to have a hard time hitting 500whp with out headwork on 93. I will guess your going to be around 475-490whp with your setup. I wish the cams would make 500 on the 350im but so far it hasn't happend that I know of. Frederick has an e85 station. Fill up and bring a few gas cans to store in the garage. It will last you a month or so if its a weekend car. With the flex tune you could switch to a 93 - e85 mix for the week and then a full e85 tank for the weekend also. Even with a few gallons of e85 added to 93 you can get some extra timing and power. I read someone say they datalogged and found no extra benefit on his setup past e60. Does JPC even do flex tunes? Rev Auto said they didn't until I dropped off my car with a Lund Flex tune loaded. Then they magically gave me a flex tune as well. LOL
 

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No, haha. They dyno tuned my car. I have the independent dyno sheet comparing the Lund email tune vs the Rev Auto dyno tune to prove it. Its just that when I made the appointment they told me they would be only able to due an e85 only tune but when I picked it up Adam told me they did give me a flex tune. I thought it was odd that they figured out how to flex tune after I dropped my car off with a Lund flex tune loaded. Maybe they already had it figured it out and the guy on the phone didn't know what he was talking about but it seemed a little coincidental to me.
 

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No, haha. They dyno tuned my car. I have the independent dyno sheet comparing the Lund email tune vs the Rev Auto dyno tune to prove it. Its just that when I made the appointment they told me they would be only able to due an e85 only tune but when I picked it up Adam told me they did give me a flex tune. I thought it was odd that they figured out how to flex tune after I dropped my car off with a Lund flex tune loaded. Maybe they already had it figured it out and the guy on the phone didn't know what he was talking about but it seemed a little coincidental to me.
They probably already had a working tune, but they wanted to develop it a bit more before releasing it. I model tables and algorithms for chemical processes professionally and 90% of the time the difference between a finished product and one that's in development is a situation that demands it's implementation and about 2 hours of work. I'm guessing your car was the first one to run a flex tune.
 

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Update: The guys at Jpc have been tuning my car all day today and i got an email today they just past 450 rwhp working with the cam timing and looking for more hp? They say it will be finished tommorow afternoon so i can pick it up Wednesday morning... we are getting closer to the finish line!
 

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Update: The guys at Jpc have been tuning my car all day today and i got an email today they just past 450 rwhp working with the cam timing and looking for more hp? They say it will be finished tommorow afternoon so i can pick it up Wednesday morning... we are getting closer to the finish line!
Awesome stuff, man. Glad to hear it's going okay.
 

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rev auto seems to like them, they just picked up another set from us today. they have done quite a few builds with them
They did my old build. 500.4whp in an S197 6MT.

If you don'the mind me asking, what was the install cost for all of that?
4k on my old car including cams, springs, opgs, labor and dyno tune.

Well 93 is usually about 10whp shy of e85 in my experience as well as others. Unfortunately I believe you are going to have a hard time hitting 500whp with out headwork on 93. I will guess your going to be around 475-490whp with your setup. I wish the cams would make 500 on the 350im but so far it hasn't happend that I know of. Frederick has an e85 station. Fill up and bring a few gas cans to store in the garage. It will last you a month or so if its a weekend car. With the flex tune you could switch to a 93 - e85 mix for the week and then a full e85 tank for the weekend also. Even with a few gallons of e85 added to 93 you can get some extra timing and power. I read someone say they datalogged and found no extra benefit on his setup past e60. Does JPC even do flex tunes? Rev Auto said they didn't until I dropped off my car with a Lund Flex tune loaded. Then they magically gave me a flex tune as well. LOL
GT350 mani. is holding it back from 500whp. S550s need to do ported CJ setups and 500whp will come.
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