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Are they the fastest or most powerful...dont know and I don't care.
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Great logic for spending hard earned money right there!

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Listen to this guy! Full of smrt decisions!
 

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Great logic for spending hard earned money right there!

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Listen to this guy! Full of smrt decisions!
I'm not sure if you care, but people like you actually turn more people off to a business than turn them on to it.

We know you're happy with your tune and Livernois as a whole. But your fanboism isnt necessary here, maybe save it for the sub forum of the car you actually own.
 

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Great logic for spending hard earned money right there!



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Reliability is more important than power
 

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It is standard car forum procedures to build a tuner up to be the end all be all of performance modifications, and then when one little thing doesn't pan out, crush them against the rocks as a snake oil salesman.

I would have to dig a bit, but I remember when the AP came out for the Mazdaspeed3, everyone on the forums treated it as the final, ONE TRUE TUNING SOLUTION. When it first hit the market with the canned tunes and didn't turn the Speed3 into a Z06 killer...everyone went ape shit against Cobb. Now all of the Speed3 guys love Cobb again. It is the circle of life.
 

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To the OP. Are you willing to run an OTS map while waiting for Cobb to release ATR so the custom tuners can start? Do you care about the extra features that come with the AP? If not, and you are happy with the numbers Bama is making via the SCT, buy that. You'll make power sooner by going through Bama.
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Comparing Cobb vs Bama/Livernois(they use their own device)/Torrie/WMS/ect isn't really useful. All those listed are essentially offering custom tunes, which Cobb is not.

The real comparison lies in the Cobb AP vs the SCT X4. The AP, like the SCT, exists to provide a medium through which tuning can occur. Each has their own advantages and disadvantages(which are temporary for both devices).

SCT:
It allows the buyer to have their car tuned in person or via email. It allows datalogging and parameter monitoring. The device is sold at a cheaper price. Another advantage this device currently has it that it is ready for custom tuners to start working. Some needed revisions to the device's capabilities are in process, but these are small concerns that won't affect many owners.

AP:
It will allow you to have your car tuned in person or via email. It allows datalogging and parameter monitoring. The price increase over the SCT comes with several features such as active map switching, and multiple OTS maps you can choose to run until you have the car custom tuned. Currently the ATR tuning software is in beta, so there is a wait before you can be custom tuned. It is not necessary to have the car custom tuned, but you will not make as much power as those who are without doing so. OTS maps are useful as interim tunes. They provide a safe tune that allows you to make and run modifications while deciding on a tuner or if that tuner has a waiting list. I wouldn't recommend running them as a permanent tune.

General comments:
  • Both are proven and capable devices that offer essentially the same end result. They facilitate tuners to create custom maps and revisions for your car. The AP comes with several advantages for its price premium, but those advantages may not be worth it to some potential buyers.
  • Since the ATR tuning software is not currently out of Beta, you would have to run an OTS tune until that is distributed. There is no negative impact to doing so, but the SCT x4 is ready to go. This is a temporary, but significant, advantage in favor of the SCT device.
  • Both devices have plenty of tuners working on them, or lined up to work with them. Some tuners even work with both devices.
ATR and ATP is now available!

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So does COBB not need a Strategy code for the vehicle?
We have all of the ones that Ford has released built into the Accessport. When you install the AP, it automatically detects what is on your vehicle and applies it to the installation.

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We have all of the ones that Ford has released built into the Accessport. When you install the AP, it automatically detects what is on your vehicle and applies it to the installation.

Ian
Thanks,
So these Streatgy codes, are there more added? If so how does that affect the AP?
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