Chinese Transmission

[Hashbrownn]

Will 2015 model have the same terrible manual transmission from China that was on the previous year model?

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[fastback69]

IMHO, nothing to do with the fact that it's built in China and it really is a lazy explanation for the MT82 problems. Apple products are built there as well and they are about as trouble free as any consumer electronics out there. It's all about Quality Control and Quality Assurance. Bad QA will plague any part, no matter where it's built. There's also inherent design by Getrag to consider.

Ford has lacked in this department for years and I believe much of this is to be blamed on that. Hopefully they learned from all the bad press (even if it was overblown).

 

[GTsquid]

Most places seem to be in agreement that MT-82 will carryover at least for the first year. I'd expect them to upgrade this at the same time as the engines.

 

[Thed]

Not this again... I 'll just post what I posted in the other thread.

Even though there wasn't ever really a problem with it? The whole gear-grinding thing was grossly over-exaggerated. It was a problem with a select few early transmissions, which was quickly resolved by better quality control. There were just over 100 official complaints with the transmission regarding this issue, half of which were found to come from the same IP address (a spammer, if you couldn't figure it out). A majority of the rest were from people that either didn't know of the skip-shift "feature" or didn't know how skip-shift worked.

With that said, I'll gladly take a MT-82 in my 'Stang. No exceptions. Both of my trucks are manual, and I won't have it any other way, especially for a sports car.

 

[Hashbrownn]

transmission problems are over-exaggerated? I was told of the transmission issue by my local Ford dealership, from the same sales rep that I bought 2012 Edge from for my wife. Are you saying that it is a non-issue right now? I went in there looking to purchase a 2014 Mustang GT, that's when I was told of the transmission problems. Salesman told me I should hold out for the 2015 Mustang GT, but what difference would that make if it has the same problematic transmission?

 

[5388]

I am not too sure about the "grinding" issue, but on the 2012 V6 i owned when the temperatures dropped around freezing point I could not get the car into gear until it had warmed up for about 15 minutes or so. We had to take the car into the dealership for the TSB Ford sent out. Although it made the issue less severe, it didn't completely fix the issue. I know for most people it won't be an issue since they won't drive their Mustang certain times of the year, but there are some of us who rather drive it every single day, rain or snow, and would not bother with any other car as a daily driver.

So, i'm not too sure if it truly was "over-exaggerated" but it was definitely a very real issue I personally faced with that transmission.

 

[nametoshowothers]

Will 2015 model have the same terrible manual transmission from China that was on the previous year model?

It is a piece of crap and it is related to Chinese manufacturing and poor oversight

 

[Red]

Gents, I can say that clutch and shift linkage 'issues' can make any transmission seem like junk. I could easily be wrong here, but from the little I've read, and what little I've seen, some problems attributed (by some) to the trans are probably due to the clutch and/or linkage. Clutch pedals going to the floor and staying there are not the transmission's fault. Also, not being able to shift at high RPM's (above 7k, say) are not necessarily the transmission's fault either -- could be, but I'd look at the clutch and linkage first.

Just my two cents...

 

[mustangfamily03]

I had a 2011 GT and it would grind going into second gear when driving normally, not on high rpm shifts. I never had a problem with it when pushing it hard, but when I would just cruise around it would slightly grind when I shift from first to second. That's just my experience.

I wonder why they didn't just use the tremec from the GT500, besides cost obviously.

 

[mustangfamily03]

I had a 2011 GT and it would grind going into second gear when driving normally, not on high rpm shifts. I never had a problem with it when pushing it hard, but when I would just cruise around it would slightly grind when I shift from first to second. That's just my experience.

I wonder why they didn't just use the tremec from the GT500, besides cost obviously.

Having re-read my own post I realized the cost is the only reason they didn't use the Tremec...:doh:

 

[bballr4567]

Its not really the transmission that was junk but the clutch and pedal feel. That was junk.

 

[Red]

Sounds like a linkage adjustment problem, since high rpm shifts are generally done more forcefully. Could certainly be wrong.

From what I've read, some consider Tremec's to be too clunky (when shifting). The TKO seems have a fairly well known reputation for the 2-3 shift being balky at speed (> 6500 +/-). I bought a TKO600 for the Fox in my sig, modified by Liberty to hopefully move that difficulty higher in the rpm range. We'll see!

Had a toploader in the Fox back in the 80's. Great unit (grandfather of the Tremec, imo), tough as nails, yet ... prone to 3rd gear cracking/breakage (with slicks and power shifts).

Point being that I bet people would find something to b!tch about the Tremec (TKO, 6060) too, if it was offered in more vehicles.

 

[RTD]

From everything I've read, the inability to shift at high RPMs is 100% fixed by the Whiteline Transmission Bushing Insert that costs $35 and takes half an hour to install. Apparently the problem was due to excess transmission movement at high RPM causing temporary shift linkage misalignment. I'm planning on putting one in my Boss next Spring.

 

[mustangfamily03]

Sounds like a linkage adjustment problem, since high rpm shifts are generally done more forcefully. Could certainly be wrong.

From what I've read, some consider Tremec's to be too clunky (when shifting). The TKO seems have a fairly well known reputation for the 2-3 shift being balky at speed (> 6500 +/-). I bought a TKO600 for the Fox in my sig, modified by Liberty to hopefully move that difficulty higher in the rpm range. We'll see!

Had a toploader in the Fox back in the 80's. Great unit (grandfather of the Tremec, imo), tough as nails, yet ... prone to 3rd gear cracking/breakage (with slicks and power shifts).

Point being that I bet people would find something to b!tch about the Tremec (TKO, 6060) too, if it was offered in more vehicles.

People are always going to have something to complain about. I never really complained about the trans in my '11 GT I had because the car was under warranty at the time and my ford dealership always takes care of everything. Anything can have problems, but the good thing is a manufacturer that is willing to fix it. I had a S10 in 2002 and GM, not just the dealership, were @ssh*les to me about fixing a misaligned tailgate. I actually was at the Ford dealership here looking at a Mustang and they fixed the tailgate with a few adjustments. I know it might have been a stunt to get me to buy something, but they have been good to me for over 10 years.

Back on track:
The new trans is very smooth though, not bad for a daily driver. I personally like the 6060 for a performance standpoint, I don't know why..

 

[Red]

mustang: I didn't mean to imply that I thought you were complaining -- I don't. You were quite level-headed in your description of the problem.

I was more commenting (complaining?! ) about what seems to be a general tendency on the internet to complain about anything and everything. Gets old... It's real easy to complain (or 'raise issues' -- don't get me going about that one!); try actually designing things in the first place, or improving things. Gets a fair amount tougher then.

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