Catch Can: UPR vs Mishimoto

[Black_S550]

I realize there's many threads in regards to catch cans and these two brands, and given the Memorial Day sales today, I'm looking to make a purchase.
First off, I have a general understanding of the catch can concept but here's a few questions I have.
UPR seems to be the favorite/superior CC but Mishimoto doesn't seem like a bad product. So what's to factor when purchasing and ultimately what's the better route?
Does adding a catch can do anything with voiding/creating a warranty issue?
I understand it's longevity benefits which is why I'm looking to make this purchase.
My car is my daily and currently all I have is a CB with no intentions to do anything extreme except bolt ons.
RDP Store currently has the Mishimoto listed for $157 - http://www.rdpstore.com/p-7405-mish...led-oil-catch-can-black-mmbcc-mus4-15pbk.aspx

LMR has the UPR for $150 - https://lmr.com/item/UPR-5028-112/f...XmpOV16SI8k6S4IW-5Gp3vu2DjiMIgi9KOBoCN6Dw_wcB

Are each of those the correct ones you would buy. I know for the UPR there's also a dual CC but didn't know if that was completely necessary. Any insight/advice is appreciated.

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[HoosierDaddy]

Does adding a catch can do anything with voiding/creating a warranty issue?

All anyone can answer is if it SHOULD do anything to create a warranty issue.

It shouldn't.

BUT when humans are involved, anything is POSSIBLE. There is the well known case of a Camaro owner with an engine failure due to oil starvation. Some bozo at GM/dealer tossed a coin and decided to blame it on the catch can and then refused to admit the mistake. The system circled the wagons, and the owner ended up getting screwed. Has to either eat the repairs or spend a fortune on lawyers.

 

[Sharad]

The UPR cans work quite well. And if you're worried about warranty work, you can remove the can before you take the car to the dealership.

 

[Mishimoto]

Hi There,

As you stated catch cans are a great choice as far as preventative maintenance goes and getting any catch can on your EcoBoost is a smart idea.

Our catch can is unique in that it comes equipped with internal air diverters to help slow the air/oil entering the catch can, as well as internal baffling for more surface area to help separation. We also provide a 50 micron bronze filter to ensure that the oil is trapped inside the catch can. Our direct-fit hoses come with quick-disconnect fittings so there is no need to cut your stock PCV line.

We tested both the PCV and CCV systems on our EcoBoost and we saw minimal oil accumulation in the CCV side in comparison to the PCV side, so a single can should be sufficient for most EcoBoosts, especially if yours is not heavily modified.

If you have any other questions, let us know and we would be happy to field them!

-Sara

 

[UPRSteve]

Our Dual Valve systems was created to pull oil from the turbo inlet and the PCV. Any oil is to much to us. Pulling off one side will not stop oil from getting back into the turbo which can cause it to smoke (burning oil) This is was we created the dual valve catch can. Our filtration system was designed to keep the air flow strong while catching any and all oil, fuel and any contaminates.

 

[Black_S550]

Can anyone tell me the steps to check the amount of blow by I may or may not have? I wanted to go in to check and see what I may have accumulated from not having a catch can up to this point. Any help and direction is appreciated.

 

[Miglo]

There are some fairly cheap borescope cameras on Amazon that can connect to your phone. You can fish that down a port like where your spark plug goes and inspect the cylinder heads or valves for carbon build up. I'm pretty new to the coyote engines so I don't have all of its parts and setup figured out yet. But coming from GTDI engine platform, doing that inspection was pretty easy...

Can anyone tell me the steps to check the amount of blow by I may or may not have? I wanted to go in to check and see what I may have accumulated from not having a catch can up to this point. Any help and direction is appreciated.

 

[Nihil]

with DI engine its a double whammy, really need to check the intake valves for carbon build up, and if youre tuned for 93 don't need any blow by oil lowering your gas octane and causing any issues.

 

[Heardcuh]

Hey UPR Steve, I live in Lake Worth. I've got a 93 tune from Tune+ and I just passed 14K and feel it's probably time to get a dual valve catch can if you anyone will be there for me to come in this morning and purchase one.

 

[Jmeo]

I can tell you this. I have had the UPR setup since day one and I have been amazed with Joe and Steve's determination to provide the absolute best performing system they possibly can. They have continued to work/redesign their can and will continue to monitor the performance and make changes if need be.

I can't speak for Mishimoto as I don't have their setup. They are a great company and among the best in the intercooler/radiator world. I can also tell you I wouldn't just have protection on the PCV side. I think they dropped the ball in this area. They should have continued to develop the clean side and left it up to the consumer if they wanted to buy it. My UPR clean side does indeed trap some oil. Not a enough to drain at this point (4,000 miles) but when I open the can there is oil residue that I clean off with a rag so it does indeed work.

 

[PewterCam]

Can anyone tell me the steps to check the amount of blow by I may or may not have? I wanted to go in to check and see what I may have accumulated from not having a catch can up to this point. Any help and direction is appreciated.

Pull the intake off and look at the valves. This is how I checked mine out and sadly even with a catch can my car had a lot of buildup by 8k.

 

[PewterCam]

Can anyone tell me the steps to check the amount of blow by I may or may not have? I wanted to go in to check and see what I may have accumulated from not having a catch can up to this point. Any help and direction is appreciated.

Pull the intake off and look at the valves. This is how I checked mine out and sadly even with a catch can my car had a lot of buildup by 8k.

 

[Black_S550]

Pull the intake off and look at the valves. This is how I checked mine out and sadly even with a catch can my car had a lot of buildup by 8k.

Would this be the same steps like Adam's video of the UPR installation?
That's what I was trying to figure was the steps to do so or just how much I needed to do to look in the right area.

 

[PewterCam]

Would this be the same steps like Adam's video of the UPR installation?
That's what I was trying to figure was the steps to do so or just how much I needed to do to look in the right area.

Yes. One the intake is off you can use a flashlight and look directly at the valves.

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