another tune warranty ?

[rio16]

Lol wow do we really already have another one of these threads.

Again, nobody in here is giving any real information. I have yet to hear one single firsthand case of someone being denied a warranty claim because they had a tune at some point.

Nor does anyone in here actually know how the ford tech would be able to see that it was tuned. That's what I want to know. I've heard all the theories. Unless it is something catastrophic I doubt you will have a problem getting things fixed under warranty because of a tune. Idk about the LTs though

lol.. one of the senior members here directly work through ford (Project whitemare) like redgt stated 2011 ford can detect if the ecu is flashed or tuned.. if its engine related etc i would put the car back to stock tune but if its the springs tires bumper etc you won't get denied cus of the tune.. not a theory.. its more of what are u coming in for.. if your stock springs broke etc and you have aftermarket tires slicks drag radials then they will deny your claim.. and for the tune if it was a bad idle etc then you will need to put it back to stock tune..

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[rio16]

Wow, was no one around when the 5.0 first came out in 2011?

Ford designed a feature into the cars PCM that permanent records the number of times the vehicle has been flashed (tuned) and if that number doesn't match the service records for the vehicle, they will go sniffing around even further and will deny your claims. Many people had this happen during the 2011-14 MYs. I'm sure that Ford didn't remove that feature on the 2015...

if thats the case.. one dealer denies you go to the next one :ford:lol

 

[redgt]

That works in theory, but Ford can flag your VIN so as soon as any dealer inputs it into their service writing computer it will show that your warranty has been denied due to xxx modifications. Now if you want to have your air conditioned seats repaired under warranty I'm sure they would still perform that work under warranty, but I can assure they will not replace or repair your motor or transmission because you modified the tuning of your vehicle aftermarket.

Quote the warranty act all you want to them until your purple in the face, Ford is richer than you and me, they will win. Warranty is voided on each part you modify, and each part that is directly affected by that part.

 

[rio16]

That works in theory, but Ford can flag your VIN so as soon as any dealer inputs it into their service writing computer it will show that your warranty has been denied due to xxx modifications. Now if you want to have your air conditioned seats repaired under warranty I'm sure they would still perform that work under warranty, but I can assure they will not replace or repair your motor or transmission because you modified the tuning of your vehicle aftermarket.

Quote the warranty act all you want to them until your purple in the face, Ford is richer than you and me, they will win. Warranty is voided on each part you modify, and each part that is directly affected by that part.

thats the truth and that is what i said... the fact is if your coming in for a motor transmission problem and caused by the tune i wouldn't think so.. its either you just don't know how to take care of ur ride.. or just driving the shit out of your car..

so far so good.. its been more cosmetic problems than engine/transmission on my end..


and most of these guys over won't leave their car stock in a long run...so when it comes to motor/tranny etc always gotta have money for that.. but w little stuff like the ac seat windshield bumper etc ill have them take care of that..

my case ill be going w a blower in the near future and i know that ill have to pay for something if it goes wrong.. and waiting on sc companies that offer engine and drive train warranty...


last thing is my warranty covers lifetime oil changes as well.. so pick your poison.. i bought my ride to enjoy it :cheers::ford:

 

[EcoSwag1990]

Obviously I don't question that ford themselves are not going to warranty things that I change on the car or issues that clearly point to a modification that I've done. I'm questioning the general amount of paranoia that ppl have about having issues due to an aftermarket tune and how and if dealers will be able to detect it.

Thank you for the chart (where did you get it?). I have heard about the P1000 code and was told on here by someone who apparently spoke to a tech that the code will go away after several cycles (turning the car on/off and driving ~5miles). This is if the dealer even checks for it, because I have seen several postings from ppl who had done extensive modding and still received engine repairs covered under warranty.

 

[redgt]

That diagram was posted on several Mustang forums when this paranoia first came up in 2011 model year.

The manager of the Ford dealer service dept. I go to and have a great relationship with told me that Ford takes motor warranty claims very seriously on V8 MUSTANGS and that he has seen Ford send engineers down to the dealer to personally investigate modifications for warranty denial. Heck even a Ford master tech I'm friends with told me that, he also said Ford can make them plug your car in to some Ford network where Ford engineers from HQ can dig throught your PCM to search for evidence of aftermarket tuning.

When I modified my 2012 5.0, I was up front with them and they still worked on my car, we understood that any motor work was on my tab though. I traded it in and the only modifications I've made to my 15 are high performance floor mats and Ford Racing trunk mat, light weight cargo net, and a UPR oil catch can. I haven't dynoed the car with these mods, but it seems to be running okay without a tune, so I will leave it alone.

I can't afford to replace my power train if something does happen, so I'm leaving it stock for Ford to deal with if anything happens.

 

[SVTFreak]

I don't blame ford. There are far too many "tooners" out there who don't know what they are doing. Even some good ones learned the hard way in 2011 with the change in the way the system works. No reason ford should have to cover it if it's not their fault.

 

[EcoSwag1990]

Well I have mechanical breakdown insurance so I'll see how that plays out if I ever get denied by ford. I spoke to geico and they just said it would cover anything mechanical that was not being covered under warranty. Of course they would probably not want to cover a tuned car but how will they know when I can go to any body shop I want ;)

 

[redgt]

I'm sure they are going to ask Ford why they aren't covering your vehicle repairs, then might play a different tune when they find out your tune is the cause of it.

Best of luck though, it really is a small chance your taking.

 

[comagt]

Well I have mechanical breakdown insurance so I'll see how that plays out if I ever get denied by ford. I spoke to geico and they just said it would cover anything mechanical that was not being covered under warranty. Of course they would probably not want to cover a tuned car but how will they know when I can go to any body shop I want ;)

Or you could pay for your own failures? Stop asking us to pay for your mods breaking stuff on the car. Repairs aren't free and other paying customers are subsidizing your lack of owning up. What I stated above was valid, if you're going to alter the behavior and engineering of the car, then you are accepting the financial responsibility to keep that car running.

 

[EcoSwag1990]

^ stfu

 

[redgt]

ouch. financial responsibility is a tough one isn't it brother?

 

[EcoSwag1990]

I actually only have a few payments (like 6) left on the car and I do my research to make sure I'm only putting the best parts/tune on it. I'm also always on top of maintenance. If there's one thing I can't stand it's ppl high roading on the internet. And yes if I have a problem which will likely not be a result of anything I've done I will be looking to get what help I can in fixing it.

I guess u guys will be coming out of pocket next time you're at fault in a car accident?

 

[comagt]

So we should all low road it and treat this like some magical fairy land where kids can be kids?

 

[Blk2015GT]

That diagram was posted on several Mustang forums when this paranoia first came up in 2011 model year.

The manager of the Ford dealer service dept. I go to and have a great relationship with told me that Ford takes motor warranty claims very seriously on V8 MUSTANGS and that he has seen Ford send engineers down to the dealer to personally investigate modifications for warranty denial. Heck even a Ford master tech I'm friends with told me that, he also said Ford can make them plug your car in to some Ford network where Ford engineers from HQ can dig throught your PCM to search for evidence of aftermarket tuning.

When I modified my 2012 5.0, I was up front with them and they still worked on my car, we understood that any motor work was on my tab though. I traded it in and the only modifications I've made to my 15 are high performance floor mats and Ford Racing trunk mat, light weight cargo net, and a UPR oil catch can. I haven't dynoed the car with these mods, but it seems to be running okay without a tune, so I will leave it alone.

I can't afford to replace my power train if something does happen, so I'm leaving it stock for Ford to deal with if anything happens.

I've been saying this for a while that sometimes it is out of the dealership's discretion and Ford will send techs out to inspect, but some people here thought I was full of sh*t or something. Obviously it's true and you play you pay.

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