another tune warranty ?

[rio16]

That is right... you pay to play... Its best to leave your car stock forever if you aint ready to play.. everyone is diff.. I bought it to enjoy it..

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[Livernois Motorsports]

TUNE=WARRANTY DELETE

Not true...knowledge is power! :cheers:

http://www.semasan.com/semaga/images/warranty_ftc.pdf

http://www.bipac.net/page.asp?content=warranty_consumer&g=semaga

 

[redgt]

I don't think those articles you linked to are talking about modifications....seem to be more about repairs and maintenance.

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

They actually do outline modification regulations as well. Warranty (maintenance) work cannot be denied due to modifications. The dealership has the responsibility to prove that whatever modification that was made is what directly caused the failure.

 

[FordService]

I already have a tune, from my understanding as long as the tune doest cause the problem , your warranty will fix whats wrong. is that correct? tune wouldn't have an effect on a manual transmission right? I want LT's and full exhaust on the car but If i have a problem with the tranny, i don't want them to say we can't fix your tranny because you have exhaust and a tune. I can't take the LT off every time i have a issue. thanks

Hey robmustang201528,

I don't want to touch the back and forth in this thread, but just want to give you some info. Any modifications may not necessarily void your warranty; to get information on how any mods can hypothetically affect your warranty, I recommend visiting your local Ford Service Department. They'll be able to help with finding approved parts, if available.
You can view your official warranty statement regarding this on page 12: HERE
The New Vehicle Limited Warranty does not cover any damage caused by:
• alterations or modifications of the vehicle, including the body, chassis, or components, after the vehicle leaves the control of Ford Motor Company
• tampering with the vehicle, tampering with the emissions systems or with the other parts that affect these systems (for example, but not limited to exhaust and intake systems)
• the installation or use of a non-Ford Motor Company part (other than a certified emissions part) or any part (Ford or non-Ford) designed for off-road use only installed after the vehicle leaves the control of Ford Motor Company, if the installed part fails or causes a Ford part to fail. Examples include, but are not limited to lift kits, oversized tires, roll bars, cellular phones, alarm systems, automatic starting systems and performance-enhancing powertrain components or software and performance ‘‘chips.’’

Basically, if it's determined that the non-approved part caused the issue, it wouldn't be covered. Hope that info is useful.

Jeff

 

[rio16]

Not true...knowledge is power! :cheers:

http://www.semasan.com/semaga/images/warranty_ftc.pdf

http://www.bipac.net/page.asp?content=warranty_consumer&g=semaga

LMAO

http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Content/Catalog/owner_information/2015-Ford-Car-LT-Truck-Warranty-version-7_frdwa_EN-US_12_2014.pdf


page 12


thats the SEMA website you provided livernois...page 12 on the ford warranty page says it all.. and esp in CALIFORNIA.. emissions are a no no over here..

so knowledge is power :cheers:

 

[rio16]

Hey robmustang201528,

I don't want to touch the back and forth in this thread, but just want to give you some info. Any modifications may not necessarily void your warranty; to get information on how any mods can hypothetically affect your warranty, I recommend visiting your local Ford Service Department. They'll be able to help with finding approved parts, if available.
You can view your official warranty statement regarding this on page 12: HERE
The New Vehicle Limited Warranty does not cover any damage caused by:
• alterations or modifications of the vehicle, including the body, chassis, or components, after the vehicle leaves the control of Ford Motor Company
• tampering with the vehicle, tampering with the emissions systems or with the other parts that affect these systems (for example, but not limited to exhaust and intake systems)
• the installation or use of a non-Ford Motor Company part (other than a certified emissions part) or any part (Ford or non-Ford) designed for off-road use only installed after the vehicle leaves the control of Ford Motor Company, if the installed part fails or causes a Ford part to fail. Examples include, but are not limited to lift kits, oversized tires, roll bars, cellular phones, alarm systems, automatic starting systems and performance-enhancing powertrain components or software and performance ‘‘chips.’’

Basically, if it's determined that the non-approved part caused the issue, it wouldn't be covered. Hope that info is useful.

Jeff

Nvm FORD even beat me to this post... lol

thanks Jeff... anyways my parts for the TSB hasn't came yet aka (brake squealing) :ford:

 

[EcoSwag1990]

LMAO

http://www.fordservicecontent.com/F...ck-Warranty-version-7_frdwa_EN-US_12_2014.pdf


page 12


thats the SEMA website you provided livernois...page 12 on the ford warranty page says it all.. and esp in CALIFORNIA.. emissions are a no no over here..

so knowledge is power :cheers:

^ I don't get what your point is. Nobody has disputed that if the aftermarket modification causes the problem then it wouldn't be covered under warranty.

But they can't simply say nope you modded so no warranty, the issue has to be as a direct result of the modification.

Also what are you saying about emissions? You know it takes less than 5mins to flash your car back to the stock strategy right?

 

[rio16]

^ I don't get what your point is. Nobody has disputed that if the aftermarket modification causes the problem then it wouldn't be covered under warranty.

But they can't simply say nope you modded so no warranty, the issue has to be as a direct result of the modification.

Also what are you saying about emissions? You know it takes less than 5mins to flash your car back to the stock strategy right?

Bruh...My point literally TUNE=WARRANTY DELETE :shrug:

NO TUNE=WARRANTY :shrug: why so hard to understand?

"• the installation or use of a non-Ford Motor Company part (other than a certified emissions part) or any part (Ford or non-Ford) designed for off-road use only installed after the vehicle leaves the control of Ford Motor Company, if the installed part fails or causes a Ford part to fail. Examples include, but are not limited to lift kits, oversized tires, roll bars, cellular phones, alarm systems, automatic starting systems and performance-enhancing powertrain components or software and performance ‘‘chips.’’"


:cheers:


FORD is rich and they can do wtv they want... YOU HAVE TO PAY TO PLAY

 

[EcoSwag1990]

if the installed part fails or causes a Ford part to fail.

There appears to be a lack of comprehension on your part here because your quote states exactly what I just said.

If I run an aftermarket tune/part and then something happens that is not as a result of changes I made, I will still be able to get repairs under warranty

 

[FordService]

Nvm FORD even beat me to this post... lol

thanks Jeff... anyways my parts for the TSB hasn't came yet aka (brake squealing) :ford:

Anytime! Have we talked about this before? PM your VIN, mileage, name, phone number, and dealer info. I'll put in for a parts escalation.

Jeff

 

[rio16]

There appears to be a lack of comprehension on your part here because your quote states exactly what I just said.

If I run an aftermarket tune/part and then something happens that is not as a result of changes I made, I will still be able to get repairs under warranty

Well, then you do AGREE. You said what I said and what i said is what your saying.

And what your saying is warranty in general. I was talking about "tune = warranty delete" it's a diff story when you have a TUNE but your ac on you seats don't work.

there shouldn't even be an argument. Like what we said. FORD is richer than us.

 

[comagt]

Of course they would probably not want to cover a tuned car but how will they know when I can go to any body shop I want

He also said that he would game the system to get the problem fixed. That was my only issue with what he said.

As for the ongoing "debate:, if you have the time, money, and resources(lawyers) to debate every warranty issue you have with a bunch of aftermarket mods on your car then go for it. Otherwise, my advice was to have money set aside to handle replacing the drivetrain pieces that fail. If Ford denies you, are you going to go through the hassle of replacing a broken motor that had a tune, and full bolt ons by spending it on lawyers, or use that money to get a built motor that can support your mods going forward?

 

[rio16]

He also said that he would game the system to get the problem fixed. That was my only issue with what he said.

As for the ongoing "debate:, if you have the time, money, and resources(lawyers) to debate every warranty issue you have with a bunch of aftermarket mods on your car then go for it. Otherwise, my advice was to have money set aside to handle replacing the drivetrain pieces that fail. If Ford denies you, are you going to go through the hassle of replacing a broken motor that had a tune, and full bolt ons by spending it on lawyers, or use that money to get a built motor that can support your mods going forward?

Idk about that esp when FORD specialist is in this thread lol :headbonk:

For me im having this TSB for my squealing brakes and maybe instead of doing warranty work maybe ill just upgrade it.. bigger lighter brakes..

But if you buy your Mustang for you to drive stock then you should keep everything stock so that you can KEEP YOUR WARRANTY for 6-7 years.

Comagt is right.. if you have all that money lawyer time stress etc then use it.. id rather use or spend money on the upgrades etc..

Pay to Play :amen:

 

[Blk2015GT]

You know it takes less than 5mins to flash your car back to the stock strategy right?

Ford can now see if you flashed you ECU, and how many times, unlike maybe 5 years ago. If the number of flashes doesn't match your service record, bye bye warranty; at least anything under the hood or transmission that can be associated with strain from extra power from a tune. Putting the tune back to stock before going in for service no longer will get you by.


Your earlier theory Geico will cover anything not warranty is likely debunked as well. I HIGHLY doubt any reputable shop is going to risk insurance fraud to lie on your behalf about your car being modified. And the insurance 100% will ask, it is a routine question before paying out.

Pay to play. Be ready to pay up to fix your car cash, again anything under hood or transmission (or any aftermarket part itself) if you intend to mod.

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