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I’d agree with that. The GS is really that good Mach Daddy (drive one if you haven’t).

I love the C7 ZR1 and would love to have one. But if I were forced to choose one, I’d take the C7 GS over the ZR1. Probably the most well rounded Vette GM made (yes, even better than the vaunted C6 Z06. I said what I said). 🍿🍿
Only C7 I even drove was a Z06 when I had my supra. It was ok but nothing to write home about. But then again I only drove it on the streets normal, and a tuned supra and build quality of that lil BMW was just better to me.
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I'd definitely believe it, I've seen the performance from the sidelines, but I'm also obsessed with light weight. I had gotten my first 'fun' car(97 T/A) down to ~2900lbs with about 350whp and it was an absolute hoot. I've been broken ever since lol.

I am piecing together suspension pieces for my '22 now, just for the sake of improving the response and 'tightness' of it. In terms of the C6, how does the Mach feel? Tighter, the same but heavier, or something else?
Every generation of Corvette got heavier. I owned a C5 Z06 - traded my 2016 GT350 for it. I understand it's not exactly what you are asking, but I think I know this pretty well in general. Mustangs that are set up for handling have relatively stiff suspension. The car is high up off the ground, so body motions are more exaggerated. The C5 suspension is really soft and compliant, but the body motions are better controlled than the Mustang. The advantage is 600 lbs lighter weight and a much lower center of gravity.

The C5 'vette has a lot more weight in the rear due to the transaxle, so the tires get better grip. When the tires do start to slip, it's a lot more predicable and slower - easier to catch the car compared to a Mustang.

There are a lot of things I didn't like about the C5. Most of them I could have fixed over time, but I just didn't have enough headroom in that car. And I didn't see how any modifications would get me enough headroom.

I haven't driven C7s a lot, but to me they felt a lot heavier and more muscular than the C5. I would bet they are much safer than a C5 in a crash, but I didn't get the same lightweight feeling. And they still don't have much headroom. I'm a little tall at 6'4", so the headroom thing is probably not an issue for some people.
 

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I think all this racing should be taken to the drag strip..... :) I love how the guys in my Corvette club bad mouthed the Mustangs and how the guys in the Mustang club bad mouthed the Corvettes. I always got the question which is faster, my Mustang or my Z06...guess what my response was? I don't know, since I can't race against myself and definitely not letting anyone else race me in my own car. Loved them both for what they do best.
 

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I haven't read his other post......but he does make a good point. If you haven't driven your car aggressively in a mode that holds back the nannies, you may be in for a surprise. I don't know if you have or not based on your intital question. I will go out on a limb and say racing against anything on tires that aren't capable of handling the power is good way to loose a race. Most street races are conducted when one driver believes they have the advantage...if you know what I mean.


..nevermind, I just saw your replies to people's post. I take it back, you're not retarded. You're a retarded dick. 😀
 

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No one is addressing one of the first things OP said, which was "stock clutch". I can tell you from experience, you get a bit of heat in that thing and it's going to flair your shifts. It definitely isn't putting all the power down if it's been on the car for very long at that power level. Go to the R2's. They are relatively cheap, and if you drive in the rain as you stated, you'll like them. I have been surprised at how well they handle the rain, albeit, they are only a few weeks old and have maybe 500 miles on them. I was out on 95 this weekend with a steady rain and a lot of standing water and they never gave me a wiggle. I was taking it very easy as I am a little PTSD in the rain with a Mustang. You want to see what G2's will do in the rain when they get a few too many miles on them? I wonder why I am PTSD in the rain...???

 
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No one is addressing one of the first things OP said, which was "stock clutch". I can tell you from experience, you get a bit of heat in that thing and it's going to flair your shifts. It definitely isn't putting all the power down if it's been on the car for very long at that power level. Go to the R2's. They are relatively cheap, and if you drive in the rain as you stated, you'll like them. I have been surprised at how well they handle the rain, albeit, they are only a few weeks old and have maybe 500 miles on them. I was out on 95 this weekend with a steady rain and a lot of standing water and they never gave me a wiggle. I was taking it very easy as I am a little PTSD in the rain with a Mustang. You want to see what G2's will do in the rain when they get a few too many miles on them? I wonder why I am PTSD in the rain...???


Damn. I'd have to clean my seat after that. Clutch is starting to get bad. It sticks to floor now after a wot. A clutch is next on my list. 65k on stock clutch with 40k of them being boosted.
 
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Damn. I'd have to clean my seat after that. Clutch is starting to get bad. It sticks to floor now after a wot. A clutch is next on my list.
Get with Terry over at @beefcake. I have the Vengeance Stage 2 and a similar set up to you. I have about 6K miles on it and it is holding the power fine. It is rated at 850ft/lbs of torque.
 
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Get with Terry over at @beefcake. I have the Vengeance Stage 2 and a similar set up to you. I have about 6K miles on it and it is holding the power fine. It is rated at 850ft/lbs of torque.

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Get with Terry over at @beefcake. I have the Vengeance Stage 2 and a similar set up to you. I have about 6K miles on it and it is holding the power fine. It is rated at 850ft/lbs of torque.


Ordered the vengeance stage 2 with new pilot bearing and Slave cylinder from Beefcake this morning.
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