500 WHP, N/A on 93 octane, possible?

[VictorH]

Looked through a few of the dyno charts and it looks like it's a stretch. Does anyone have a formula for Gen 3 Coyote to make 500 WHP on 93 octane (no E85) without boost and have it still completely streetable?

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[CJJon]

Looked through a few of the dyno charts and it looks like it's a stretch. Does anyone have a formula for Gen 3 Coyote to make 500 WHP on 93 octane (no E85) without boost and have it still completely streetable?

Here is the formula I use...

 

[WildHorse]

Can be done. Won't be cheap, but def can be done.

 

[AZ18yote]

Looked through a few of the dyno charts and it looks like it's a stretch. Does anyone have a formula for Gen 3 Coyote to make 500 WHP on 93 octane (no E85) without boost and have it still completely streetable?

No e85 will handicap it but still can be done. But as mentioned will not be cheap either.

 

[VictorH]

So, what are the ingredients? Stock the Coyote is making about 95 HP/L in Bullet or Mach 1 form, to get 500 RWP will probably take about 115HP/L ( 575 HP at the crank). It's the old saying, HP cost $$, how fast do you want to go? I'm coming from a much more expensive platform where headers run $4-5K, cams $3-4K and a stock rebuild is $20K. Not looking to dump a ton of money, but if it's possible but not ridiculous then game on.

 

[FruityJudy]

Cams, cj intake, tune, headers, and a forgiving dyno

 

[NGOT8R]

I agree, it won’t be easy. I just got off the Dyno last week with my FBO ‘19 Bullitt and I made 469 rwhp / 439 rwtq on E85 with a Lund tune.

 

[CJJon]

Are you are looking for instructions too? Geeze. Do some research and come and ask specific questions.

At least put some effort into it.

 

[bluebeastsrt]

I have to ask. Why NA? For the cost of trying & most likely failing to reach 500. You could strap on a cheap blower and make 600.

 

[WildHorse]

You could strap on a cheap blower and make 625.

Well 500 NA on a base GT with weight reduction vs a full weigh premium 600 FI my money is on the NA car.

 

[NGOT8R]

Maybe adding some cams and head work, in addition to your FBO mods would get you there.

 

[bluebeastsrt]

Well 500 NA on a base GT with weight reduction vs a full weigh premium 600 FI my money is on the NA car.

Please don’t use the tin can Steeda shop car as a basic for this argument. I went 10.3@135 in a boosted premium 15 on 93. It’s going to take a whole lot of weight reduction to get a NA car on 93 down to that number.

 

[WildHorse]

Please don’t use the tin can Steeda shop car

I ain't using them for anything. I'm just saying where I'd place my bet. That's all.

 

[NGOT8R]

@bluebeastsrt , how much horsepower were you making to run that 10.3 @ 135? I’m trying to get a feel for how much power it’s going to take me to run mid 10’s in the 1/4?

 

[Schwerin]

I agree, it won’t be easy. I just got off the Dyno last week with my FBO ‘19 Bullitt and I made 469 rwhp / 439 rwtq on E85 with a Lund tune.

Whay kind of dyno? Tuning by James has a Bullitt doing 495whp with just e85, and Evolution has a 2018+ doing 500wheel with e85 headers and intake. American Muscle has a 2018 also doing 500wheel with the same mods as Evo.

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