2020 EB Stg II Installed

[Patriot Six]

That’s not what I wanted to hear. Lol

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[BlueCollarDaily]

You will know soon you will get the dreaded p0300, then p0316, then p0301-8 which ever one it is....if you dont say in a week its fine......

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

That’s frustrating , are you running the Motorcraft plugs that came with the kit ? I was having some random misfiring so changed plugs to NGK seemed to take care of it .

The plugs that come with the kit are CYFS092YPT aka ILTR7N8 aka an NGK plus in the 7 heat range aka identical to the NGK6510 with the exception they come pregapped at .035 for boost applications and are actually a better base in that it you want to tighten that up NGK only recommends a max of .008 gap change which puts the 6510s put of range to run .026-.028, though many do....its literally the same plug when you cross the numbers all the way back to the source in Japan......dont ask me how I know

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

That’s not what I wanted to hear. Lol

You should notice with it hot and heat soaked you will turn it off let it sit for say 15 mins and hit start does it stumble there as well?

 

[Patriot Six]

Never had a warm start issue. It’s when running already that it stumbled at idle. I had three different codes once when it went into limp mode, not the ones you mentioned, which I believe were tied to the 103mm TB. Car is driving ok minus some rough spots in the tune. I’ll keep this post updated.

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

Never had a warm start issue. It’s when running already that it stumbled at idle. I had three different codes once when it went into limp mode, not the ones you mentioned, which I believe were tied to the 103mm TB. Car is driving ok minus some rough spots in the tune. I’ll keep this post updated.

Something harmless to check are the pins going into the TB connector, I had one unseat and it give me the limp mode put me on road...ect.....

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

Something harmless to check are the pins going into the TB connector, I had one unseat and it give me the limp mode put me on road...ect.....

Looked back in my emails is was P2119 code when I had the TB harness issues it seems just glancing thru.....

 

[Patriot Six]

I actually reverted back to stock tune plugging wiring harness back into stock TB then re-loaded the EB tune with the 103mm TB plugged in and it fixed a lot of the issues I had just prior to going into limp mode. Now, there are just some rough spots of mild surging here and there.

 

[Patriot Six]

Looked back in my emails is was P2119 code when I had the TB harness issues it seems just glancing thru.....

P2119 was one of the codes I got when it went into limp mode, too. Re-loading the tune helped fix it.

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

P2119 was one of the codes I got when it went into limp mode, too. Re-loading the time helped fix it.

Good just trying to help I had all the early growing pains on both stages....I found the pin itself wasnt well seated in the connector....
On the surge I found a KAM reset AND a crank relearn will really help after about three drive cycles should be a minimum.

Also and other more experienced Ford techs would have to tell you, BUT the FORD IDS, always seems to do a better job of the crank relearn and even resetting trans after a tune.....if your friendly with your dealer takes em 15mins.......
Also I've had this happen more than once if it continues to surge at idle double check that your air filter has come off inside your air box.....
Good luck it's an awesome blower and in stage 2 93, you should eventually be able to get where its driving pretty darn nicely.....

 

[Patriot Six]

Thanks for the advice.

 

[Patriot Six]

Good just trying to help I had all the early growing pains on both stages....I found the pin itself wasnt well seated in the connector....
On the surge I found a KAM reset AND a crank relearn will really help after about three drive cycles should be a minimum.

Also and other more experienced Ford techs would have to tell you, BUT the FORD IDS, always seems to do a better job of the crank relearn and even resetting trans after a tune.....if your friendly with your dealer takes em 15mins.......
Also I've had this happen more than once if it continues to surge at idle double check that your air filter has come off inside your air box.....
Good luck it's an awesome blower and in stage 2 93, you should eventually be able to get where its driving pretty darn nicely.....

I know you've mentioned that you like the Stage 1.5 idea, which I assume is going from a 3.5" blower pulley to a 3.75". I'm probably going to go this route to make it more survivable on 91. If you did this, what belt size worked with the 3.75" pulley? Thanks.

 

[biscuit60177]

The problem with swapping to the 3.75 pulley is they will drop the blower and power train warranty. That's why I stopped my install before it even got started and why I now have a new, never used stage II I'm selling. I just think, for me, it's not worth staying full stage II boost because I want the warranty, I didn't plan to tune it. It's a shame too because the kit looks pretty high quality...

 

[Patriot Six]

The kit is great, but the EB tune is garbage. I plan to drop the boost and go with a custom tune so that the car is actually enjoyable to drive.

 

[BlueCollarDaily]

I know you've mentioned that you like the Stage 1.5 idea, which I assume is going from a 3.5" blower pulley to a 3.75". I'm probably going to go this route to make it more survivable on 91. If you did this, what belt size worked with the 3.75" pulley? Thanks.

K080860HD fits perfectly and it's a gates HD green belt, cheap from Rock Auto.....

I'll tell ya man me and wife, cause consider I've gotten 3 months use in 13, just got back from a drive. She doesn't know it but I'm breaking her into idea that the trans is going out....wanting her ( though we been together 23 years with me doing this hobby before she when we met, in fact I think I was being chased by cops on a racing 4 wheeler first time she actually seen me; she just can't wrap her head around all these constant failure).
I'll tell you the bad, something has certainly changed in the transmission its always had some delay going from R to D cold but I let it run 5 minutes to day then counter to 6 seconds before it engaged then it shift flared under light throttle BAD...its flared on moderate ( less than 25%) throttle on the I first time today and hung 6 to 5th then lurched on light decel into 2nd from 3rd....then I sat there making as little noise as I could idling the car while she did a work conference call....when I put it into drive it lurched forward like I had revved it to 2500 and popped a clutch......

She ( 10r80) is probably going,tomorrow a friend has agreed to help me check the trans fluid using his lift which is difficult because the transmission has to be hot and have run thru its gears.it has to be running while you check it and its nuts tight to exhaust. You remove a 19mm cap and there is a dipstick many have reported finding their trans 2qts low....I will update this if that is so.....
Now I've only gotten on this once or twice for 2-3 seconds in the last oh 400 miles I've really just been trying to keep breaking the engine in. I will tell you right now imho the 3.75 on the stage 2 is a sweet spot for a true street car daily 93 and more worried about a balanced car than ET.

There is zero way hooking this car isnt mid 10s with a normal weight guy ( I'm real fat had lost 300lbs but both knees collapsed at gym gained most of it back 7 years to get off 1.5 to come back heh), this is all anyone need and honestly IF we could get a 10% lower taking off a few more psi but adding a few degrees, I think it will be very well balanced something akin to the new Roush phase 2.....I find myself at 3.75 if the engine and trans lived thoroughly pleased with the power and wish I had a way to reduce it by at least 1psi more....

I took my wife out to show her when the soon and inevitable time comes soon the trans quits pulling they hey this is what the car could be and this is how I drive it 99% of the time....cause I know it's coming and even if Edelbrock cut a check she is gonna flip her shit....and this is not a lady that hasnt been around this stuff her whole life..this car was supposed to be the fun first new car with some power to have fun and blow tires off now and then.....allowing me to enjoy the last bit of health and it's been anything but..
I've never been more disappointed, frustrated and stressed out...I've had 2 bad falls one where I cracked my hip and now it looks like that may need surgery in the joint....I was supposed to get my first nice new car and let the ASE tech do the wrenching and worrying and me just get to enjoy it and she works 2 jobs saving lives to make it happen....so unlike me who keeps plodding forward SHE isnr having it.....I just wanted her to have ONE pleasant time ( and be able to call back to the quirks) and let her see what the car could be before she comes in off the road and I have to tell her it quit pulling......

Do not be concerned at all putting the 3.75, they are reasonable in fact they probably prefer it......the 93 Edelbrock tune on it is actually good and imho there is a world of different in their 91 and 93 stage 2 tunes...
I hated the 91 and could easily live with the 93 it's quite surprising how well it works out with about a .035 nitrous jet in the bypass....
This is all anyone needs trust me it's still stout

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