2020 Auto selector?

[mavisky]

At least a couple times every lap at HPT. There's a hard right hand coming from about 80 to 30, a left hander going from about 70 to 30, and the final left hander going from about 70 to 40. Corners are greater than 90 degrees and I shift from 3rd to 2nd on each corner. Go crank your wheel around those corners and get back to me on where your paddles are.

I understand that sharp corners exist. I'm asking you are you actively downshifting in the middle of that corner or up shifting in the middle of that corner? If you are downshifting leading up to the corner in the braking zone or up shifting on the exit you shouldn't have any problems with paddle location.

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[Fatguy]

One important oversight so far is how am I supposed to play in a snow-covered parking lot without a handbrake? Sometimes you need it to swing that a** around or to pull you straight. I guess that I'll have to pass on ordering this model.... JK

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Yup, and there are more uses...

I like some cables and actual linkages to the car. Without an actual cable to physically actuate things you may as well get rid of the throttle pedal and put a slider on the wheel. Given enough time for drivers to learn you could get rid of all pedals actually. Right slider for throttle and left for brakes. This probably is not that far fetched as the computers could help or restrict crazy inputs like an accidental brush against a slider. I wonder if this is how people without legs could drive. That would point a green or red light to that idea...

 

[mavisky]

Yup, and there are more uses...

I like some cables and actual linkages to the car. Without an actual cable to physically actuate things you may as well get rid of the throttle and put a slider on the wheel. Given enough time for drivers to learn you could get rid of all pedals actually. Right slider for throttle and left for brakes. This probably is not that far fetched as the computers could help or restrict crazy inputs like an accidental brush against a slider. I wonder if this is how people without legs could drive. That would point a green or red light to that idea...

You do realize that throttle cables are already gone and in some cars all of the braking is done by wire too. Steer by wire isnt going to be far off and I'm sure someone already has an engineering concept running around somewhere.

 

[Fatguy]

You do realize that throttle cables are already gone and in some cars all of the braking is done by wire too. Steer by wire isnt going to be far off and I'm sure someone already has an engineering concept running around somewhere.

Up till this V6 Mustang all my cars were physically connected by hoses, cables and shafts turning gears. All that must go for autonomous capability. Pedals and levers can disappear as a result. If you think the Tesla’s are spartan now, then take it to the next level and remove the pedals. Then all you have is the scroll “mouse balls” on the steering wheel.


Interestingly when people pestered Elon Musk about this, his response was “ You won’t care” as in by that time driving will have lost its fun factor.


He may be right. How are you supposed to have a street race locked into a grid lock of cars traveling at a set speed to take advantage of lights and driving conditions. Then all will have cameras catching your enthusiasm in the act... This is probably best for the community as a whole but horrific for driving enthusiasts.


So you think this takes racing to the track and drag strip where they belong . Expect them to be banned as they create the wrong environment for the future. A couple of accidents and the cancelling of insurance does that easily. Fun times ahead - Not!

 

[Zooks527]

I wonder if this is how people without legs could drive. That would point a green or red light to that idea...

Uh, you do understand that hand controls for paraplegics and people without legs have been around since Hector was a pup, right?
https://www.mcmobilitysystems.com/wheelchair-accessible-products/hand-controls/

 

[Fatguy]

Uh, you do understand that hand controls for paraplegics and people without legs have been around since Hector was a pup, right?
https://www.mcmobilitysystems.com/wheelchair-accessible-products/hand-controls/

Those look to be physical controls. All electric with hand or finger controls for those with limited mobility would be the acid test for viability for the great unwashed.

 

[Ericc B]

Mike Dean from Ford just sort-of confirmed on Instagram that the regular 2020 models will have a rotary auto selector too, which is not the same but similar to the one in the GT500.

 

[Fatguy]

Mike Dean from Ford just sort-of confirmed on Instagram that the regular 2020 models will have a rotary auto selector too, which is not the same but similar to the one in the GT500.

HELL NO!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[hglaber]

Steer by wire isnt going to be far off and I'm sure someone already has an engineering concept running around somewhere.

Infinity has had drive by wire steering on production vehicles for about 5 years. They call it Direct Adaptive Steering.

 

[mavisky]

Infinity has had drive by wire steering on production vehicles for about 5 years. They call it Direct Adaptive Steering.

I had thought that someone had, but wasn't 100% certain.

 

[EcoVert]

Mike Dean from Ford just sort-of confirmed on Instagram that the regular 2020 models will have a rotary auto selector too, which is not the same but similar to the one in the GT500.

That sucks

 

[Twin Turbo]

Mike Dean from Ford just sort-of confirmed on Instagram that the regular 2020 models will have a rotary auto selector too, which is not the same but similar to the one in the GT500.

I honestly thought we'd see this when the S550 was first launched. I'm in two minds as the "traditionalist" in me likes a "proper" auto-shift stick, but as it only really gets touched when you select drive or park (or perhaps Sport), does it really matter? It'll free up space on the console for, perhaps, a cordless phone charger or something. I suspect the hand/emergency brake will also go at the same time......

 

[Rickycardo]

Mike Dean from Ford just sort-of confirmed on Instagram that the regular 2020 models will have a rotary auto selector too, which is not the same but similar to the one in the GT500.

Does that mean all 2020 S550 automatics will get the 7 speed DCT? I can't really see Ford dropping the 10 speed after just a couple of years.

 

[Brian_S550]

Does that mean all 2020 S550 automatics will get the 7 speed DCT? I can't really see Ford dropping the 10 speed after just a couple of years.

Doubtful, but the rotary shift knob design we saw in the GT500 would easily be able to control the gear selection (either our normal PRNDS or PRNDM like the GT500) on an A10 car.

 

[Norm Peterson]

I honestly thought we'd see this when the S550 was first launched. I'm in two minds as the "traditionalist" in me likes a "proper" auto-shift stick, but as it only really gets touched when you select drive or park (or perhaps Sport), does it really matter?

In strict terms of transmission operation, no.

But associating such a dainty, kitchen-appliance-like control with the operation of a 300, 450, or higher horsepower, 3500+ lb motor vehicle easily capable of 3-digit speeds just sends the wrong message.


Parking brake levers already seem to be on the way out, not that their electrical/electronic replacements are really any better from the driver-operation point.

I think wireless phone chargers should take the form of a slot that the phone slides into - possibly in the dashboard, rather than a tray that the phone just sits on.


Norm

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