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Sure, if magneride didn't cost over six thousand dollars. Active exhaust is like $850, you won't even notice that in a monthly payment.
Magneride is ~$1700, the Performance Pack that is required for the option is $4k, however, making the total cost of options for and with the Magneride ~$5.7k. Buuuuut, it’s only really an issue if you weren’t planning on getting the PP yet want the Magneride - most people around here seem to want the PP. :)
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stock GT is not going to sound great as it never has. Get the active if you want louder without going aftermarket
 

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To your point, Spectrum, there are aftermarket exhausts in development made specifically to modify the OEM active exhaust system (utilizing the software interface), so really the active exhaust gives you more options either way.




That's the problem.

That's not really a correct statement. Magneride doesn't cost $6k. Magneride is $1.6k. Yeah, it's on top of $4k for PP but you're getting a LOT more than just magneride for $6k.
 

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That's not really a correct statement. Magneride doesn't cost $6k. Magneride is $1.6k. Yeah, it's on top of $4k for PP but you're getting a LOT more than just magneride for $6k.
agreed. It's incorrect to say magneride is 6k. People half-serious about performance will get the PP or try to replicate it aftermarket and end up spending much more
 

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That's not really a correct statement. Magneride doesn't cost $6k. Magneride is $1.6k. Yeah, it's on top of $4k for PP but you're getting a LOT more than just magneride for $6k.
It's really not incorrect though, for the mere fact that you have to get PP to purchase magneride, as a tiered option. If someone walks into a dealership and says I want a GT with magneride, they are going to have to pay for PP, too. It's not reasonable to assume that because one wants magneride -> one must want PP. Magneride has nothing to do with track performance, it's all about drive comfort and ride compliance.


Thus, to get magneride, you will be paying ~$6,000 for the ticket. The majority of the stuff in PP is completely lost in daily driving. Suspension, marginally better braking distance, and shorter gearing is all you will notice on the drive to work and back.
 

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I'll admit, that new stock exhaust certainly sounds quite a bit better than the 15-17. I'd consider looking for someone's throw aways if they didn't require cutting/modifying the rear end. Still thinking a muffler delete sounds pretty good on these, just really loud.
 

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It's really not incorrect though, for the mere fact that you have to get PP to purchase magneride, as a tiered option. If someone walks into a dealership and says I want a GT with magneride, they are going to have to pay for PP, too. It's not reasonable to assume that because one wants magneride -> one must want PP. Magneride has nothing to do with track performance, it's all about drive comfort and ride compliance.


Thus, to get magneride, you will be paying ~$6,000 for the ticket. The majority of the stuff in PP is completely lost in daily driving. Suspension, marginally better braking distance, and shorter gearing is all you will notice on the drive to work and back.

Well then I'm going to claim that you have to spend $50k to get a new Mustang windshield. Nevermind that you get a nicely equipped GT along with it. The windshield is $50k.

My point is that MR is NOT $6k. Yeah, you have to spend that much to get it but you get a lot more than JUST MR. MR and PP together cost $6k and when you say MR cost $6k you are implying (intentionally or not) that MR is all you get for that price.

Oh, and MR increases track performance as well. You are mistaken there. The quoted 0-60 and 1/4 times all require the MR addition, so in does increase performance. I know it helps on non-straighline tracks too.
 

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It's really not incorrect though, for the mere fact that you have to get PP to purchase magneride, as a tiered option. If someone walks into a dealership and says I want a GT with magneride, they are going to have to pay for PP, too. It's not reasonable to assume that because one wants magneride -> one must want PP. Magneride has nothing to do with track performance, it's all about drive comfort and ride compliance.


Thus, to get magneride, you will be paying ~$6,000 for the ticket. The majority of the stuff in PP is completely lost in daily driving. Suspension, marginally better braking distance, and shorter gearing is all you will notice on the drive to work and back.
One can get a beautifully riding vehicle with completely passive suspension, it just takes time in development and quality components. Your assertion about magneride is half true. The reason it exists is primarily to allow for on-the-fly, active damping that is in the damping ratio range of where you'd want it for the track, and to be able to instantly soften as conditions require. There is no point in putting it on a softer suspension setup as you can make that car ride very nearly as well without the expense (development, complexity management, tooling as required).
 

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It's really not incorrect though, for the mere fact that you have to get PP to purchase magneride, as a tiered option. If someone walks into a dealership and says I want a GT with magneride, they are going to have to pay for PP, too. It's not reasonable to assume that because one wants magneride -> one must want PP. Magneride has nothing to do with track performance, it's all about drive comfort and ride compliance.


Thus, to get magneride, you will be paying ~$6,000 for the ticket. The majority of the stuff in PP is completely lost in daily driving. Suspension, marginally better braking distance, and shorter gearing is all you will notice on the drive to work and back.
Saying magneride has nothing to do with track performance is incorrect.
 

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agreed. It's incorrect to say magneride is 6k. People half-serious about performance will get the PP or try to replicate it aftermarket and end up spending much more

Sure, but from a dealer's perspective I'd think for $895 the exhaust would sell the car faster. 301A w/ big screen/nav + active could sell a lot of cars.
 

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Take a look at HP tuners video on the calibration maps...

If you skip to 6.20 the complexity of the exhaust can be seen. The active valves are not just open, a bit open or closed but they are constantly changing with throttle position, rpm and gear. No wonder the car sounds great.
Such a big reason I have a hard time believing in aftermarket modding, sure it can be done right but doing it the right way is going to cost such a huge amount more money compared to buying stock.

Good example I once saw on Youtube was this guy getting all kinds of Steeda stuff for reduced wheelhop, reducing roll and lowering springs and each part from Steeda claimed it doesn't effect ride quality. Sure maybe it reduces ride quality by only 3% which is basically not noticeable but add 3 items that each do 3% and you are up to 9% something you will notice. And some mods even work against eachother.

Guess it's just very easy to ruin a ride with cheaping out on mods, just for the sake of modding.

As I said there are good ways to mod and bad ways but I am convinced that to ensure a quality mod you will have to pay such a ridiculous amount. Hence I am so glad Ford has added active exhaust and MagneRide to the Mustang options, can't beat it for that price. And this video is evidence they didn't half @ss it, fills me with convidence :)

Don't wanna know what an aftermarket Active Exhaust would cost and especially one that is tuned to engine speed, throttle input and that for each gear. No where near 850 at aleast :)
 

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I have a 2018 without the active exhaust.....and its definitely more louder than the 2015-16 GTs that I was test driving. Big difference.
 

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A bit of a cheat, but here is my 2018 with standard exhaust with a Roush resonator delete x-pipe installed.



 

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I got the active exhaust solely due to the quiet mode. I like being able to take a trip in peace and quiet like I could with my LMS built '16 SHO putting down 390awhp through full stock exhaust. I have no desire to spend hours on the interstate listening to my exhaust blare.
If you want loud, buy the passive exhaust and mod to your level of taste.
 

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Yeah, I'm into a quiet car too. My 2016 GT will continue with it's stock exhaust.

OP, you just gotta decide on what you want, then order it or go find it.
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