2018 Mustang refresh?

[Colleton]

I read somewhere in a post here from a union newsletter that Ford is in the middle of installing a full scale plasma spray bore line, so this is coming to something.

It could be for whatever halo Mustang is replacing the GT350, assuming that 2017 is the last GT350 production year (big assumption maybe).

School me please. What advantage does a plasma coated spray bore line have? More resistant to heat or some such?

http://articles.sae.org/7624/

Less weight, so better weight vehicle distribution. Improved wear properties, etc...

I don't think a glass roof or the plasma coated cylinder bores will be included for 2018. I tend to agree with the rest. What about a heads up display?

I agree about the chances of getting a glass roof, but I'm hopeful about PTWA based on the union article excerpt posted earlier in this thread.

Assuming that the "new spray bore technology coming to the Block Line" reference is actually about PTWA, why would Ford be installing the equipment for this process in the Essex plant unless they intended to mass produce PTWA treated engine blocks? #fingerscrossed

Don't care about a heads up display. Don't want one badly enough to pay for the feature, at any rate. Just me.

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[dddd]

I wouldn't say plasma coating is going to have any impact on the maximum bore, un-shrouding of valves or accuracy of the bore size. Bore size is limited by the center to center bore distance and maintaining adequate cylinder wall thickness. You can have a thinner wall with a steel liner because it's stronger and ultimately have a bigger bore. Machining precision these days is so good doesn't make any difference whether the bore is plasma coated or machined steel.

The big disadvantage to plasma coated cylinders is the inability to rebuild the engine if the coating is damaged without some very expensive machining and pressed in steel liners.

Plasma coated cylinders is not a new technology. Back in the late 70s and early 80s when I was racing dirt a lot of engines had plasma coated cylinders.

The only way the GT 350 managed to obtain a 94 mm bore was by using the spray bore technology, in fact Ford go on to say that it is one of the main advantages of PTWA, ie getting maximum bore diameter in any given block.

So assuming the standard 5.0 is going to get PTWA I think it's a safe bet that it will also therefore get the 94 mm bore from the GT350 (Essentially using a GT 350 block).

It’s still being referred to as a 5.0 which means it must be using a slightly smaller stroke crank, I find this very interesting as this will finally give the 5.0 a larger bore than stroke (Hopefully pushing the red line up a bit )

As they would have to design a new cylinder head to incorporate the direct injection I would logically assume that they would take advantage of the larger bore and also give it the wider valve spacing (and larger valves) of the GT 350 as well

This is obviously a totally new engine

 

[200MPHCOBRA]

I wouldn't say plasma coating is going to have any impact on the maximum bore, un-shrouding of valves or accuracy of the bore size. Bore size is limited by the center to center bore distance and maintaining adequate cylinder wall thickness. You can have a thinner wall with a steel liner because it's stronger and ultimately have a bigger bore. Machining precision these days is so good doesn't make any difference whether the bore is plasma coated or machined steel.

The big disadvantage to plasma coated cylinders is the inability to rebuild the engine if the coating is damaged without some very expensive machining and pressed in steel liners.

Plasma coated cylinders is not a new technology. Back in the late 70s and early 80s when I was racing dirt a lot of engines had plasma coated cylinders.

Can you post a link referring to a plasma process from that time period for cylinder bores? This tech allowed the Voodoo to get to 94 mm from 92.2 mm. And the Condor to go to 93.5 mm from 90.2 mm. If sleeves were optimum for this increase they would have went that way. Larger bore unshrouds the valve for a given valve size. I've read one article that mentioned an accuracy increase, but I can't verify it. The durability increase for the many I think offsets trying to re-bore a destroyed block for the few. And economies of scale will bring the price down soon enough, perhaps enough so that a scored cylinder wall could be repaired by a smaller organization.

 

[Spartan]

Also was told the interior is going to be amazing with some cool new features.....Keeping my fingers crossed

There was a post a while back that had a Mustang interior at a car show with all sorts of new features on it from a tech company supposedly working with Ford. Had a really cood LED display plus other features across the dash/mirrors, etc. Don't remember the post/where it was located but if anyone remembers feel free to post it.

 

[Dary]

There was a post a while back that had a Mustang interior at a car show with all sorts of new features on it from a tech company supposedly working with Ford. Had a really cood LED display plus other features across the dash/mirrors, etc. Don't remember the post/where it was located but if anyone remembers feel free to post it.

This one I believe

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[Topnotch]

 

[Topnotch]

 

[zillah]

Please no. That looks hideous.

 

[Mt-82 whine]

I like the idea but the lay out looks a little Dodge like

 

[minjitta]

Ford can use some of this aluminum tech for weight saving
http://articles.sae.org/14309/

 

[Chameleon]

Looks cool!

 

[cosmo]

Give me an analog speedometer and tachometer, and a large digital screen which can be customized. I hate the look of digital speedometers and tachometers.

 

[TDC]

If it doesn't disappear in bright sunlight then I'm liking that panel. You could project the GPS in there too.

 

[Topnotch]

Ever see these before?

2015 Clay Review:

 

[Tems]

Ever see these before?

2015 Clay Review:

I like the mustangs with a little space between the road and the body!, like the classic fastbacks!

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