2018 GT vs 2016 Camaro - Track Times Compared w/Video

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  1. 1320'

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    No, it's not the base.

    It was a GTPP A10.

    I'm guessing a base-base GT will be around 3,750lbs.
     
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    This is basically how I see the big three:

    Dodge: Biggest cars, straight line speed, great looks, seats 4 comfortably, and perhaps the most "muscle car" car left.

    Ford: Lighter, sportier, higher reviving modern v8, and moving towards least muscle car and evolving into a proper sports car.

    Chevy: Lighter, older/larger v8 that makes low end power, falls in-between Ford/Dodge as far as looks and sporty/muscle car vibes.

    A lot of people still want to split hairs over two good cars. People will still buy the car/brand that they like better. All three brands offer distinct differences in design and performance.

    From some research I've done, a lot of people were set in which car they wanted for decades based on their feelings towards 60's/70's models. Ford Mustang sales have dominated by a significant margin since the Coyote came out so we have that going for us :cheers:
     
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    The mustang has never been a muscle car... Pony car. Ford kind of invented it.
     
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    Stock to stock comparisons are fine but hardly anything you can really go by since everyone does a few things to make their cars surpass the factory performance.
     
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    Having spent nearly 2 decades racing at the drag strip, I've learned to discount vehicle times as they relate to comparisons.

    Different Days + Different Tracks + Different Traction + Different Weather = Different Everything


    Not to mention outright deception by over enthusiastic owners (I've seen it all).

    So while early private runs make for interesting internet conversations, that's about it. Wait for C&D to do a test, which makes adjustments for all of the variables listed above and equalizes the playing field.

    Then we'll see how the two pony cars stack up ...
     
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    #26 1mic, Nov 5, 2017
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    I read on svtp by quite a few ppl that raced on that track, it really sucks. So that low 12 sec time will definitely be a high 11. That drag strip is so shitty a gt500 crashed into the guard rails and split in half.

    http://www.dragzine.com/news/texas-racer-perishes-horrifying-crash-little-river-dragway/
     
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    No one can tell what official published times for the car will be until official times are actually published.

    I'm certainly hoping for the best. We'll see ...
     
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    Man they are HURTING at Camaro6. Hilarious.
     
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    Haha some people who have been saying some crazy things for the past two years are now backtracking it’s really sad.

    Also a troll review also insulted them as well.

    http://www.camaro6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=512383
     
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    The A10 tranny is probably heavy plus magna ride. A base manual gt should be close to the weight of 15 17 gt’s, depending on how much weight difference is there with the new gen coyote vs old gen coyote engines!
     
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    Some guy over there has over and over referred to the 15-17 as "a 12.9 second car AT BEST." Don't we have several 12.7 runs and even a 12.4 on the fast list?

    Edit: I see 13 12.7's or better, plus the hero 12.3.
     
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    Those times are fake!!!!
     
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    :)

    But they don't doubt their 11.8 for a moment...SUPERCAR.
     
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    Lol the Camaro also has zero issues as well.

    You made that up.

    You made that up.

    You made that up.

    And I had a Camaro troll arguing with me on here that I hate the Camaro? No I hate the trolls and the crazies. Declaring that a group of people at lying on a fast list is okay?

    Originally Posted by Zeke.Malvo View Post
    The camaro has it's issues as well: ZL1's revving up and accelerating on their own
    You made that up.
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    ZL1's unable to launch
    That is an issue with the M6 equipped ZL1 when launching at the track. And it isn't as prevalent as the drivetrain vibrations on the S550s. In fact there are plenty who are launching just fine.
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    rough idling LT1's
    You made that up.
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    headliners coming cut too short
    Made up.
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    slow start/no start heat soaked starters
    You either made that up or you're exaggerating. DFI engines take slightly longer cranking the engine to start up due to the fuel injectors being in the cylinders and being subjected to higher pressures (in a nutshell for the lamen). It is not an issue nor is it anything that is a problem.
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    faulty battery cable wires
    You made this up too.
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    key fobs failing register leaving drivers stranded
    Made up. I never heard of this.
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    OnStar (nuff said)
    There is nothing wrong with OnStar. Most people don't like it due to their driving reports and that is it. There are no other complaints about it.
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    blinding reflections from gauge cluster trim
    You made that up. There are no blinding reflection in the gauge clusters.
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    seats unable to recline
    The seats do not recline back that much as compared to the 5th Gens. I heard people make mention of it but no real complaints. The car is built for a specific purpose and as such, weight and size has to be cut from it. So there is limited room in the interior compared to the outgoing Gen. Now if you're carting along 3 other people who all happen to be over 6ft then I can see it being a problem. If you're homeless then I can see it being a problem. If you're driving it across the country then I can see it being a problem. Otherwise I'm not seeing an issue and I'm 6'2".
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    no manufacturer is immune.
    The issues with the S550 that I listed are well known and can be found easily with a Google search. The issues you listed, well I have no idea where you got them from but these are made up BS that you came up with. If you have links to all these complaints then please share it with us.
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    The problems/complaints with the camaro can't be fixed with an update
    Because the problems you listed don't exist.
     
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    Literally anything wrong with the 6th Gen is made up.

    "So I had my A8 transmission fail. Here's a photo of the carnage and the dealership service order for a new transmission. My car is totally stock"

    Blaq: You made that up
     
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    LOLOLOL

    That's great.

    I like how he said "in a nutshell for the lamen."

    I bet the lamen knows it's spelled layman.
     
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    I know the Alpha platform is excellent, but I don't believe it is necessarily superior to the S550's platform.

    The GT350 has excellent performance using the same platform as any other Mustang.

    I think the handling difference is more down to chassis tuning and performance goals than anything else. Will be interesting to see where the PP2 package ends up for the 2018 Mustang.

    -T
     
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    wow..i lost about 50 iq points reading that. those guys are delusional...
     
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    You made that up!
     
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    The whole.."Find me a Mustang that was faster between 1994 and 2002" crap is the most useless thing I've seen that blithering sack of shit say yet.

    "I'm going to eliminate any chance of being proven wrong by so severely limiting the scope of comparison to ensure victory"

    Funny how the Mustang outsold the "clearly superior" Camaro to the point that GM didn't view the Camaro name as profitable anymore past 2002.
     
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