2016 SVT Automatic?

[RocketGuy3]

Yeah I expect you're right. There also may come a day when you can't drive yourself or buy a car with over 100 hp or even get gasoline. Hopefully all those things are at least 40 years in the future.

You are right, that day is coming, and coming fast (although 40 years sounds like a reasonable guess for when we'll no longer be able to buy anything close to a "sports car" as we know it).

Until that day comes, though, why not stick to the most fun your money can buy? It's like I said on the first page, yeah, autos are faster, but so is a computer at literally everything it can do with a car. But if you let the computer do all the work, where's the fun?

Plus, the manual saves you some money, makes your car nearly theft proof, gives you a good excuse to not let crappy drivers drive your car, and chicks seem to dig em. ;-)

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[sgrinavi]

You are right, that day is coming, and coming fast (although 40 years sounds like a reasonable guess for when we'll no longer be able to buy anything close to a "sports car" as we know it).

Until that day comes, though, why not stick to the most fun your money can buy? It's like I said on the first page, yeah, autos are faster, but so is a computer at literally everything it can do with a car. But if you let the computer do all the work, where's the fun?

Plus, the manual saves you some money, makes your car nearly theft proof, gives you a good excuse to not let crappy drivers drive your car, and chicks seem to dig em. ;-)

I dunno about the 40 year prediction. Did anyone 45 years ago think we would have the high power vehicle standards we have these days? Thanks to those hated computers and electronics a 300 hp car getting 30 MPG is pretty standard fare these days, that was a major muscle car back in the day. Did anyone even imagine that you'd be able to plunk down a reasonable amount of money and drive off in a 707 HP dodge?

I think we'll have our fair share of powerful, fun cars, they'll be lighter and probably fuel cell powered; they'll get up and go for sure.

As for the decline of three pedal cars? We probably won't need transmission at all - - they'll be single gear torque monsters :-)

 

[R 350 gt Donson]

While future will be exciting, and bring with it a lot of changes. (some good some not so good) One thing is for sure, the "purist" like us, will not let the "feel of a car" go away, this is why so much emphasis is put on steering, etc....Im not worried about auto, vrs manual....because I know there will be some "Houdell/s" that will keep it alive to the very end.

 

[Cruzinaround]

The Tesla "D" SUV can clip off a 0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds and also drive itself. I'd say the time has arrived.

 

[sgrinavi]

The Tesla "D" SUV can clip off a 0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds and also drive itself. I'd say the time has arrived.

Sure, as long as you don't want to drive too far. The battery tech isn't there yet and I don't know that it will ever be. They're heavy, relatively slow to charge, expensive and not that environmentally friendly in manufacturing and/or the energy expended to charge them.

 

[Cruzinaround]

The planned charging network would allow you to drive coast to coast for free. Weight is irrelevant ... they're not race cars. I get that the battery production is pretty "non-eco friendly", neither is fossil fuel consumption. But that's an area where change should happen rapidly.

Google and Apple now entering the arena. Tough to simply dismiss it as irrelevant. Especially when you consider there is even an electric car out there now that even eliminates a gear box entirely.

Exciting times.

 

[sgrinavi]

The planned charging network would allow you to drive coast to coast for free. Weight is irrelevant ... they're not race cars. I get that the battery production is pretty "non-eco friendly", neither is fossil fuel consumption. But that's an area where change should happen rapidly.

Google and Apple now entering the arena. Tough to simply dismiss it as irrelevant. Especially when you consider there is even an electric car out there now that even eliminates a gear box entirely.

Exciting times.

I'm not dismissing it, they're very cool cars - I just don't think the batteries are ready for prime time. AKA not "there" yet. You're not going to be driving coast to coast for free once they become mainstream either- the economics don't support it. They have to pay for the power and pay for the cost to build/maintain the stations.

How many KWH to charge up that new Tesla anyhow?

Weight is the most relevant thing on a car for efficiency and performance. You have to slow it down to stop/turn and accelerate it to go. It's takes more energy to move three tons than 1.5 tons, right?

 

[R 350 gt Donson]

I'm not dismissing it, they're very cool cars - I just don't think the batteries are ready for prime time. AKA not "there" yet. You're not going to be driving coast to coast for free once they become mainstream either- the economics don't support it. They have to pay for the power and pay for the cost to build/maintain the stations.

How many KWH to charge up that new Tesla anyhow?

Weight is the most relevant thing on a car for efficiency and performance. You have to slow it down to stop/turn and accelerate it to go. It's takes more energy to move three tons than 1.5 tons, right?

Keep your eyes on "SPCL" Solaris Power cell, It the future of batteries. They are not chemically charged but statically charged, smaller and lighter than lithion- Ion You should see large Utility companies being able to store electricity for very long periods of time, instantly. Example how fast...a 3 hour charge on a cell phone should take about 6-9 seconds.

 

[Hack]

I dunno about the 40 year prediction. Did anyone 45 years ago think we would have the high power vehicle standards we have these days? Thanks to those hated computers and electronics a 300 hp car getting 30 MPG is pretty standard fare these days, that was a major muscle car back in the day. Did anyone even imagine that you'd be able to plunk down a reasonable amount of money and drive off in a 707 HP dodge?

I think we'll have our fair share of powerful, fun cars, they'll be lighter and probably fuel cell powered; they'll get up and go for sure.

As for the decline of three pedal cars? We probably won't need transmission at all - - they'll be single gear torque monsters :-)

Yeah I'm not making a prediction. I'm 47 and I figure 40 years from now I might not care any more. ;) I'm just hoping we get that long, not predicting. If some had their way the day would be tomorrow.

I remember reading John Jakes' On the Road (not sure if I got the book title right, but it was definitely John Jakes) about a dystopian future where people came out in the middle of the night with their illegal gas burners and tore up the roads. :cheers:

 

[Texican1911]

You are correct. The technically correct way to say that is:

Ford doesn't require dealership to honor x plan prices on certain vehicles, but the dealership has the option to do it for any vehicle.

A piece of trivia. The mustang gt doesn't even fall in that category. It's strictly the dealerships choice. Neither does any vehicle ordered. Again, dealerships choice.

AXDZ plan pricing is printed on the invoice. SVT vehicles don't have it on there.

 

[OH5GT 2 S550]

ITT: People who think having a choice between a GT350 with either manual or automatic is a bad thing. It must be manual or bust.

Coming from the guy who only months ago was turning down fellow posters help with getting an LE because it was a manual...how times change!!!

 

[thaext]

Coming from the guy who only months ago was turning down fellow posters help with getting an LE because it was a manual...how times change!!!

Gonna have to try harder bud. I didn't refuse help, I just wasn't looking for a manual. There are lots of people here that were specifically looking for a limited edition in automatic. No harm no foul. Try again next time Randy.

 

[RocketGuy3]

While future will be exciting, and bring with it a lot of changes. (some good some not so good) One thing is for sure, the "purist" like us, will not let the "feel of a car" go away, this is why so much emphasis is put on steering, etc....Im not worried about auto, vrs manual....because I know there will be some "Houdell/s" that will keep it alive to the very end.

There might be, but within a few decades, any human-driven cars will no longer be street legal. I can all but guarantee you that. Well off people may be able to buy weekend toys to trailer to a track, but you will no longer be able to drive your own car yourself on a road -- they will be negative externalities when all cars are AI controlled.

 

[Sered]

If I were a betting man, I'd put down money that 95% of the whiners on here about 'automatic' transmissions have NEVER driven a DCT or PDK car. They're so different that I generally don't classify them as automatics but put them into their own category. It wouldn't spoil the image of the GT350 at all, if anything it would enhance it as a true world-class sports car. It would add a good 3-4 mph on the trap speeds and make it significantly faster on road courses.

 

[R 350 gt Donson]

There might be, but within a few decades, any human-driven cars will no longer be street legal. I can all but guarantee you that. Well off people may be able to buy weekend toys to trailer to a track, but you will no longer be able to drive your own car yourself on a road -- they will be negative externalities when all cars are AI controlled.

In 3 decades I will be 80 years old and I will most likely not care (that sucks to write that..lol, 50 now..and I feel like a spring chicken..30 years is not that far away..oh my god, now I'm depressed !) just kidding, I think Jesus will have his second coming before we see it illegal to drive your own car on the street. :amen::hail::cheers:

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