2016 SVT Automatic?

[Cascadia_302]

Lets see, if we just move that power plant back a bit maybe we get our seven speed DCT trans axle in right about here.

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[Geo3]

I would buy one if it came with an automatic. But it doesn't, so I can't, because I don't know how to drive a manual.

Coming from Europe some years ago, I only drove manuals such as Lotus, Alfa Romeo, Porsche, TVR, etc. I also raced, 250cc International Karts with 5-speed gearboxes, in the seventies.

My previous car in Canada, was a manual Ferrari (flat-plane crank and 8,000 rpm) which I loved. That was my reason for wanting the 350GT.

However, in my sixties now, with most of my driving on highways and around town, I prefer the new-style autos with paddle-shift. My wife can drive manuals too, but will now only drive automatics.

By the way, do you know that a clutch pedal and manual transmission is the oldest mechanical component on a car nowadays, originally developed and unchanged since the end of 1890s?

 

[Five Oh Brian]

I've historically preferred manual transmissions. Six of my eight Mustangs were manuals. However, despite the "fun" of driving a manual and feeling more connected with the car, I've found that an automatic is faster and actually more entertaining to drive with a proper tune and a big stall converter. If you've never driven a tuned/stalled automatic, then you owe it to yourself to try it out. My ' 14 Mustang GT auto employs a Circle-D stall converter that flashes to 5,000 rpm's. Absolutely mind-blowing to drive it - even in daily traffic. Build a GT350 with an automatic, then tune/stall it, and you'd have one helluva fun car that would be a blast on the track and easy to drive daily.

 

[Grimace427]

...I've found that an automatic is faster and actually funner to drive with a proper tune and a big stall converter.

You did that on purpose, right? :lol:

 

[Five Oh Brian]

You did that on purpose, right? :lol:

Fixed it. Better now?

 

[thaext]

I've historically preferred manual transmissions. Six of my eight Mustangs were manuals. However, despite the "fun" of driving a manual and feeling more connected with the car, I've found that an automatic is faster and actually more entertaining to drive with a proper tune and a big stall converter. If you've never driven a tuned/stalled automatic, then you owe it to yourself to try it out. My ' 14 Mustang GT auto employs a Circle-D stall converter that flashes to 5,000 rpm's. Absolutely mind-blowing to drive it - even in daily traffic. Build a GT350 with an automatic, then tune/stall it, and you'd have one helluva fun car that would be a blast on the track and easy to drive daily.

It's a shame that either Ford doesn't have a decent tranny a la GM's 8 speed or Dodge's ZF Tranny or just wants it for purists. Even hardcore manual purists knows that freeways/turnpikes that turn into parking lots are no fun. I mean the c7 z06 is a really badass car and has an auto option.

 

[DeepImpactBlue2015EB]

i hope not

 

[Hack]

It's a shame that either Ford doesn't have a decent tranny a la GM's 8 speed or Dodge's ZF Tranny or just wants it for purists. Even hardcore manual purists knows that freeways/turnpikes that turn into parking lots are no fun. I mean the c7 z06 is a really badass car and has an auto option.

Please just realize that as a "hardcore manual purist" I have NO desire to drive an automatic. I don't care if I'm in bumper to bumper traffic every single commute. It doesn't make me want an automatic in the least bit. I actually enjoy slow traffic in my manual car, just like I enjoy every other driving situation.

I thought Ford's auto was pretty good. I understand it's not as good as Dodge's new 8 speed, but it shifts great and holds a lot of power. I wouldn't mind having a new Ford auto trans in my 1970 convertible cruiser. I wouldn't put it in my daily driver, though. Too much boredom.

 

[Grimace427]

Fixed it. Better now?

No it was better before.

 

[sgrinavi]

Hey all - first post here.

Why all the hate for automatics? I'm a hard core manual guy too, but a good double clutch can be sublime. Try a Porsche or BMW DC and you might be singing a different tune. It's a different experience and not "automatic" especially on track.

 

[Hack]

Hey all - first post here.

Why all the hate for automatics? I'm a hard core manual guy too, but a good double clutch can be sublime. Try a Porsche or BMW DC and you might be singing a different tune. It's a different experience and not "automatic" especially on track.

I don't know about others, but personally I have no hate for automatics. I have one in my '70 Mustang convertible and also in my '99 F-250 SD. The auto is good for calm drives on a nice day around the country and also really good for a plow truck. I had planned to change the '70 over to manual, but I think the convertible should be driven more for relaxing, not for performance. I also don't drive it much, so boredom isn't a factor for me with that particular car.

I don't have plans for a paddle shifting car - I think that's what you mean by DC? Doesn't sound any different from an automatic to me. The car is doing all the work except hitting a button. YAWN!! I'm not saying there's anything bad about liking the experience of driving a car like that. I'm just saying that I don't think I would.

 

[Grimace427]

No hate for autos in any other car. This car, the GT350, should not shift gears on its own.

 

[sgrinavi]

No hate for autos in any other car. This car, the GT350, should not shift gears on its own.

Guarantee they would sell many more if they did offer a high performance, double clutch transmission. Wouldn't surprise me to see the GT with one.

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....I don't have plans for a paddle shifting car - I think that's what you mean by DC? Doesn't sound any different from an automatic to me. The car is doing all the work except hitting a button. YAWN!! I'm not saying there's anything bad about liking the experience of driving a car like that. I'm just saying that I don't think I would.

DC = double clutch tranny - shifts are instant , harsh and precise, there is no loss of rpms; far from a relaxing, easy, boring drive. It's not your grand-daddy's automatic by any stretch. All of the high-end manufacturers are going in that direction , some exclusively - the newest 911 GT3 for example is only available with the PDK (Porsche's double clutch), LaFerrari, Porsche 918 both have double clutch manual/automatics. Depending on the unit and mode they are not automatic, you have to shift them manually, but there's no third pedal required to disengage the clutch as they are both always engaged (although I'm not sure how neutral works).

Don't get me wrong, I buy manuals for my DD's and have one in my track car, because I prefer it too, but it is slower and no where near as precise.

 

[Mustang1260]

Guarantee they would sell many more if they did offer a high performance, double clutch transmission. Wouldn't surprise me to see the GT with one.

Not arguing against it (nor for it) but NO--they will sell every GT350 they can make--autos will NOT increase sales... and right now Ford doesn't have the proper auto tranny to deal with the HP, Torque, and lateral g load stresses that this car will produce.

 

[sgrinavi]

Not arguing against it (nor for it) but NO--they will sell every GT350 they can make--autos will NOT increase sales... and right now Ford doesn't have the proper auto tranny to deal with the HP, Torque, and lateral g load stresses that this car will produce.

You're right - Shame the production run is going to be that limited. Still, when the new $400k GT comes out watch them magically find a great double clutch transmission.

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