2016 Camaro

[thaext]

I highly doubt that GM isn't going to show the 6th gen camaro in Detroit. Also, it can be repeated that there's a 95% chance that the camaro is going to make the s550 look out of date (not hating on the mustang, but just objectively looking at facts of both cars). Also one of the GM bigwigs has reiterated that it will NOT gain weight.

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[hunter7389]

I don't see how anything even close to the Camaro renders will make the S550 "out of date", lol

 

[Todd15Fastback]

I highly doubt that GM isn't going to show the 6th gen camaro in Detroit. Also, it can be repeated that there's a 95% chance that the camaro is going to make the s550 look out of date (not hating on the mustang, but just objectively looking at facts of both cars). Also one of the GM bigwigs has reiterated that it will NOT gain weight.

Huh? 95% chance the new Camaro will make the S550 look out of date??? This has to be one of those dumbest things I have ever read on a forum. Are you still pissed the LE got yanked out from under you?????? Have you not seen all the renders out and about on the World Wide Web?

Go ahead and buy you a new a new Camaro:lol:

 

[thePill]

I highly doubt that GM isn't going to show the 6th gen camaro in Detroit. Also, it can be repeated that there's a 95% chance that the camaro is going to make the s550 look out of date (not hating on the mustang, but just objectively looking at facts of both cars). Also one of the GM bigwigs has reiterated that it will NOT gain weight.

I don't think the proposed 6th Gen Chaz has shown us is going to make anything look dated...

Chevy just copy and pasted a 2006 design... How is that going to make it look dated?

What "facts" are you talking about...

...by the time the 6th Gen comes out, the 5th Gen will be approaching 4000lbs (3935lbs now). Technically, there could be a 3934lbs 6th Gen Camaro and it wouldn't be heavier BUT, still a porker.

As of right now, even if it lost 100lbs, it would still weigh 3820lbs. Since the 6th Gen appears to be still in the infant stages, Mark Ruess couldnt possibly know where the car is at in weight. They won't have weight, MPG, HP or TQ or emission info yet. Those numbers are unknown up to nearly release... Mark is just bullshiting you... Similar to how they told you ALL the 2014 z28's were SOLD OUT. GM continues this because customers continue to be gullible...

Now, I have extreme doubts the Camaro will lose weight. Although, this theory is based on a certain wheelbase, I still don't know about 109... It seems the only logical option BUT, the ATS can't handle much weight and now much more power. The little Alpha will need to be built up to support the future Camaro lineup. The Convertible option will require the Camaro gain weight across the lineup. We are expecting the Camaro to go from 3935lbs to a Mustang competitive 3704lbs just by going from a 112 to 109 inch WB? The Alpha isn't a state of the art advancement in structures... It's just a regular unibody. The Corvette and Mustang both use unique structures. Both use extensive methods that achieve weight loss in the structure. Both of those vehicles still gained weight. The Mustang gained 25-82lbs and the Vette gained 190lbs (3450lbs). Yes, the C7 weighs almost 3500lbs. A 3700lbs, 109inch WB Camaro doesn't look good. The Mustang uses an advanced Unibody and almost the same exact WB the Vette does and still weighs 250lbs more than the Vette...

Just adding the extra power train weight into the rumored ATSV Coupes 3700lbs puts an entry level 6th Gen well over 3800lbs as is. I can't tell you how much weight will be added for Vert and FI V8 support... Hell, I still haven't figured in any additional weight from just supporting a V8, tranny and drive axle... 20-30lbs maybe... We are well over 3900lbs if you work from the rumored 3700lbs the ATS-V Coupe weighs.

If a 112 WB was used, it's all over... There is no room for loss then.

 

[thePill]

I'm hearing the ATS-V Coupe will be 3725-3750lbs... That's with 18x9/9.5 and a 405lbs TT 3.6 V6. The LT1 will add 60lbs alone, the 19s could be more, the brakes will be heavier, wheels, tires, suspension, transmission, drive axle and shafts...

If an ATS-V Coupe is competitive with the Mustangs 3704lbs, a 6th Gen is up shit creek with a turd for a paddle.

 

[thaext]

Huh? 95% chance the new Camaro will make the S550 look out of date??? This has to be one of those dumbest things I have ever read on a forum. Are you still pissed the LE got yanked out from under you?????? Have you not seen all the renders out and about on the World Wide Web?

Go ahead and buy you a new a new Camaro:lol:

Can you please leave the blatant fanboyism aside. Look at the facts, lighter weight, possible mag ride, possible cylinder deactivation( might be talking out of my ass). Nobody likes fanboys. I'm just saying that the possible features may make the s550 out of date. GT owners can't deny that the gas mileage sucks, and look at the Vette, owners are reporting at least 30mpg. And no I'm not pissed about the LE because, it's old news.

If the rear visibility in the new camaro still sucks, then obvs all new stuff will be thrown outside the window.

 

[Todd15Fastback]

Can you please leave the blatant fanboyism aside. Look at the facts, lighter weight, possible mag ride, possible cylinder deactivation( might be talking out of my ass). Nobody likes fanboys. I'm just saying that the possible features may make the s550 out of date. GT owners can't deny that the gas mileage sucks, and look at the Vette, owners are reporting at least 30mpg. And no I'm not pissed about the LE because, it's old news.

If the rear visibility in the new camaro still sucks, then obvs all new stuff will be thrown outside the window.

Fanboyism??? You are spewing NO FACTS. Come back to me when you have factual data, then we can talk.

And if you have facts for ALL of your info, provide links please.

My gas mileage is just fine in my new GT. I averaged over 23MPG on my 850 mile return trip home. That is plenty good for me.

I don't care what the Vette is doing. I am not buying a Vette, not now, not in the future. I do love the new vettes.

 

[thePill]

Can you please leave the blatant fanboyism aside. Look at the facts, lighter weight, possible mag ride, possible cylinder deactivation( might be talking out of my ass). Nobody likes fanboys. I'm just saying that the possible features may make the s550 out of date. GT owners can't deny that the gas mileage sucks, and look at the Vette, owners are reporting at least 30mpg. And no I'm not pissed about the LE because, it's old news.

If the rear visibility in the new camaro still sucks, then obvs all new stuff will be thrown outside the window.

First you say "weight loss" then you mention equipment that adds weight to the existing vehicle... I'm not following you...

Lol @ 30mpg in a Corvette...

Edit: You are talking out of your ass.

 

[thaext]

First you say "weight loss" then you mention equipment that adds weight to the existing vehicle... I'm not following you...

Lol @ 30mpg in a Corvette...

Edit: You are talking out of your ass.

You're full of it. In an earlier post you claimed the c7 weighs almost 3500 lbs. I knew then you were trolling, because if you actually knew anything, it weighs 2lbs shy of 3300lbs. Second of all, google cylinder deactivation. Ask Stingray_steve, Turrizm, Brent302 about the great gas mileage they get. No wonder camaro5 banned your ass, because you're just a troll against any GM product.

GM has some good products and bad products just like any car manufacturer. It's kinda sad that there are such blind fanboys about a particular product.

 

[thaext]

If anything the camaro will be a decent car with C7 options at a hefty premium making you question why you are purchasing a camaro over a 1LT Z51.

I think GM would be shooting themselves in the foot, if it goes upwards of 55k. I agree it will be a half decent product.

 

[Todd15Fastback]

You're full of it. In an earlier post you claimed the c7 weighs almost 3500 lbs. I knew then you were trolling, because if you actually knew anything, it weighs 2lbs shy of 3300lbs. Second of all, google cylinder deactivation. Ask Stingray_steve, Turrizm, Brent302 about the great gas mileage they get. No wonder camaro5 banned your ass, because you're just a troll against any GM product.

GM has some good products and bad products just like any car manufacturer. It's kinda sad that there are such blind fanboys about a particular product.

Hmmmmm...might want to research a little more before spewing crap. One is listed as 3428lbs and the other as 3444lbs. Just like the new Mustang, options tell the story on the weight of the car.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-chevrolet-corvette-stingray-z51-road-test-review

http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/co...y-vs-2015-alfa-romeo-4c-performance-test.html

 

[thaext]

Hmmmmm...might want to research a little more before spewing crap. One is listed as 3428lbs and the other as 3444lbs. Just like the new Mustang, options tell the story on the weight of the car.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2014-chevrolet-corvette-stingray-z51-road-test-review

http://www.edmunds.com/chevrolet/co...y-vs-2015-alfa-romeo-4c-performance-test.html

If I had any respect for what you say, I would have lost it with that statement . Here are the facts: the BASE weight of an 1lt is 3298 as per the Chevy website. Also, there are seemingly different amounts of weight because over on corvetteforum, users are reporting their z51 weighing at 3378.

C&D's review is based off of a fully loaded 3lt.

 

[Todd15Fastback]

If I had any respect for what you say, I would have lost it with that statement . Here are the facts: the BASE weight of an 1lt is 3298 as per the Chevy website. Also, there are seemingly different amounts of weight because over on corvetteforum, users are reporting their z51 weighing at 3378.

C&D's review is based off of a fully loaded 3lt.

I don't care that you have no respect for me. I provided facts. They weighed the cars they were given, just like they did when they got the loaded GT's. They reported their weights at 3815lbs. I guess C&D numbers are wrong for the Vette but accurate for the GT?

Time to use that wonderful IGNORE feature. Should've turned it on when you kept crying about your LE every hour on the hour, day by day:lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[Tim Hilliard]

Here are some facts:

I get 25.4 MPG @70MPH w/ 3.73's
My car weighs about 3700#'s
My Car has an under-rated 435HP
My Car was $33K

What was the argument again? There exists no other car packed with technology and performance at this price point on the planet. The Camaro will always be more expensive than a Mustang. Thaext please report me to the moderators again for picking on you. Maybe you would get a little more respect if you actually bought something (an actual real car, not fantasy land) and brought something useful to the forum other than telling all us '15 owners how much our cars suck compared to everything else on the market.

 

[Todd15Fastback]

Here are some facts:

I get 25.4 MPG @70MPH w/ 3.73's
My car weighs about 3700#'s
My Car has an under-rated 435HP
My Car was $33K

What was the argument again? There exists no other car packed with technology and performance at this price point on the planet. The Camaro will always be more expensive than a Mustang. Thaext please report me to the moderators again for picking on you. Maybe you would get a little more respect if you actually bought something (an actual real car, not fantasy land) and brought something useful to the forum other than telling all us '15 owners how much our cars suck compared to everything else on the market.

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