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Car has 25,750 miles or so. For the last 500 miles, it started this strange issue where if I dont hold the clutch a little longer (an extra second or so), it is shaking and stuttering. It does it more while on an incline. Is it the clutch or something else? I read a few other instances of clutch going out around 25-30k miles and also heard clutch in these cars are too soft and doesn’t tolerate the NVH. I m usually extremely gentle with the clutch, no riding it, always perfect or close to perfect rev match and never engage the clutch unless I m shifting it (so never engage it all the time in bumper to bumper etc).

That being said, I had an eagle talon with 145,000 miles on original clutch where the clutch went out and I know the symptoms of slipping clutch and this isnt that. This feels like something else is wrong and it worries me to take it to ford. Is there anyway i can diagnose it myself? Any help is appreciated.
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Clutch chatter the discs are glazed a bit may need a good hard drive with a few good launches. Do not slip it but launch hard a few times from higher rpms to put a little heat in the discs.

Its a similar issue as having your brakes glaze when driving to slowly you need to put heat in them or they start to squeak badly.
 
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UnhandledException said:
I read a few other instances of clutch going out around 25-30k miles and also heard clutch in these cars are too soft and doesn’t tolerate the NVH.
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Where did you read about those things?
 
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Clutch chatter the discs are glazed a bit may need a good hard drive with a few good launches. Do not slip it but launch hard a few times from higher rpms to put a little heat in the discs.

Its a similar issue as having your brakes glaze when driving to slowly you need to put heat in them or they start to squeak badly.
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Interesting, I will absolutely try this. Thanks for your help.
 

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Huh, I’ve heard the opposite that the clutches are actually pretty robust. I don’t recall hearing anybody else having clutch issues. But, I agree with Offboost that it sounds like chatter. Hopefully it is just glazed and not going out already.
 
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Huh, I’ve heard the opposite that the clutches are actually pretty robust. I don’t recall hearing anybody else having clutch issues. But, I agree with Offboost that it sounds like chatter. Hopefully it is just glazed and not going out already.
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The clutch in the car is not a top quality one. On top of that, they apparently had to make it very soft due to NVH of the engine. That is what I know.
 

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The clutch in the car is not a top quality one. On top of that, they apparently had to make it very soft due to NVH of the engine. That is what I know.
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That’s what I mean. People in my service department that I trust and a mechanic friend of mine (Ford Mechanic/private mechanic) that helps work on my car say the opposite. IIRC at Track Attack they said they were pretty stout as well.

A lot of cars are starting to get in your range of mileage so we’ll find out soon enough.
 
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Offboost said:
Clutch chatter the discs are glazed a bit may need a good hard drive with a few good launches. Do not slip it but launch hard a few times from higher rpms to put a little heat in the discs.

Its a similar issue as having your brakes glaze when driving to slowly you need to put heat in them or they start to squeak badly.
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This is probably about as good advice as you will get for a possible solution. If it doesn't cure it you will probably have to eventually replace it.
 

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UnhandledException said:
Car has 25,750 miles or so. For the last 500 miles, it started this strange issue where if I dont hold the clutch a little longer (an extra second or so), it is shaking and stuttering. It does it more while on an incline. Is it the clutch or something else? I read a few other instances of clutch going out around 25-30k miles and also heard clutch in these cars are too soft and doesn’t tolerate the NVH. I m usually extremely gentle with the clutch, no riding it, always perfect or close to perfect rev match and never engage the clutch unless I m shifting it (so never engage it all the time in bumper to bumper etc).

That being said, I had an eagle talon with 145,000 miles on original clutch where the clutch went out and I know the symptoms of slipping clutch and this isnt that. This feels like something else is wrong and it worries me to take it to ford. Is there anyway i can diagnose it myself? Any help is appreciated.
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Good post. I have just recently noticed a similar symptom in my car with the clutch slip/grab behavior changing somewhat from the way it was when new. It hasn't been occurring for a long enough time for me to form any theories as to why it's happening or whether I can do something to change it. My car has a similar number of miles as yours does. I don't believe I'm exceptionally hard on clutches, but I have pushed this car on the track a few times.

Let us know what you do and the result.
 
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I've noticed that I need to make sure that revs are up when taking off. Trying to hold it at 1000 RPM just doesn't work. I usually bring the engine up to just under 1500 and start slipping normally. Sometimes I can get away with around 1300. Perfect smooth engagement. My Coyote was like that too.
 
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nastang87xx said:
I've noticed that I need to make sure that revs are up when taking off. Trying to hold it at 1000 RPM just doesn't work. I usually bring the engine up to just under 1500 and start slipping normally. Sometimes I can get away with around 1300. Perfect smooth engagement. My Coyote was like that too.
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What I was discussing was a change in the clutch's behavior, not an issue I'm having with driving the car. I'm not sure whether you understood that or not. I couldn't tell you what RPM I do anything at, other than it varies greatly depending on the situation.
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