l'Ingegnere
Well-Known Member
Additionally, I'd like to raise the hypothesis that powertrain loss does not increase by the same factor as horsepower increases.
For example, say you have a stock 385whp 2017 Mustang GT that then receives a Whipple supercharger and power increases to 600whp on the same dyno. If the stock dyno run is accurate, 385/435=0.885, or 11.5% drivetrain loss on that exact car/dyno. Once the Whipple is installed, we use the same loss % and find that 600/(1-0.115)=678. How did power lost increase from 50hp to 78hp? A 36% increase in loss through the same drivetrain?
Now I certainly don't think the powertrain loss doesn't increase at all when power is increased as there is most definitely increased friction and heat (loss) created due to the greater internal forces exerted on the gears, bearings, etc., but I don't believe it increases by the exact same percentage.
With that in mind, I would fully expect that the drivetrain loss (in HP) of 2018 cars could be less than pre-MCA cars given the updated drivetrain gear. Meaning that I don't think seeing dynos around 410whp (which is one number that has been reported) necessarily means the car makes more than 460 at the crank.
For example, say you have a stock 385whp 2017 Mustang GT that then receives a Whipple supercharger and power increases to 600whp on the same dyno. If the stock dyno run is accurate, 385/435=0.885, or 11.5% drivetrain loss on that exact car/dyno. Once the Whipple is installed, we use the same loss % and find that 600/(1-0.115)=678. How did power lost increase from 50hp to 78hp? A 36% increase in loss through the same drivetrain?
Now I certainly don't think the powertrain loss doesn't increase at all when power is increased as there is most definitely increased friction and heat (loss) created due to the greater internal forces exerted on the gears, bearings, etc., but I don't believe it increases by the exact same percentage.
With that in mind, I would fully expect that the drivetrain loss (in HP) of 2018 cars could be less than pre-MCA cars given the updated drivetrain gear. Meaning that I don't think seeing dynos around 410whp (which is one number that has been reported) necessarily means the car makes more than 460 at the crank.
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