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Why not get one?? Probably because there aren't many made yet! You'll discuss them here? Im sure you will and of course, the numbers will be from your sources and the math will be your own. ;) Still funny you don't believe any of the performance numbers but boy, when the numbers work out...

So the magazines ALWAYS get stuff wrong when it comes to the times the Camaro can put out, the stopping distance, curb weight and all other things but then you trust the CoG measurement you trust?!?! :headbonk::headbonk::crazy: It doesn't perform well?? That's kind of funny. Of course the...

Those are absolutely sick. Great technology and crazy they have got them "down" in price to be able to use on a factory car.

Sigh. You just don't understand how a luxury car can be heavier than a cheaper everyday version do you?

Sir, you cant compare times from different tracks and different times. Once again. Then, you cant compare weights of two different cars as well. Im not uncomfortable with anything. You keep bringing up these crazy theories about dynos, curb weight and "hot" cars. You are the one...

Are you just hitting the ignition switch or turning on the car? I had this same issue on the Flex when I programmed the second key.

Thanks for proving my point. You bring up lightning lap and then you switch to Laguna for some crazy unknown reason. So what is it? The ATS-V is awesome or is it a dud? I cant keep your twisted words straight.

But....HOW is it more efficient than the IRS used in the Camaro? You keep bringing this up without any facts to back up your statements. HAHHAHAH!!!! You mean to tell me that the first time someone stepped into a car and drove it way too hard that it means its a bad car?!?!?! And no, that...

thePill, who is talking about Laguna? You specifically brought up the lightning lap and said that the Vs weren't impressive and I gave you the actual lap times. Then, you bring up Laguna? What is going on in your head? Shut. Up. About. Dynos. My god man. It's a tool. I don't know how many...

Its been like that for years with thePill. Im confused as to how the V cars didn't do well at the lightning lap. The ATS-V beat the RC-F by 6 seconds and the CTS-V beat the AMG C63 S by 3 seconds!! Didn't do well?? :crazy::crazy:

Im still at a loss of the IRS of the Corvette is so different than the Z/28 that it helps the car "perform" better on the dyno. You can go back to the days of the LS being dyno'd in the Camaro and then in the Corvette and despite the ratings, they all dyno'd the same.

I take it you have never lifted a 8 way power seat and a 16 way power seat have you? What about the ones that have heating and cooling in them? The different leather and cushions that are different between the two cars. Have you ever taken out the sound deadening in a car? What about a luxury...

This the X-Files now????

Technically called a torque tube but you are correct. That is the ONLY difference in the drivetrain and the difference is very very small. The fact that thePill brings it up every time is disheartening but not unexpected.

The new V6 in the trucks uses AFM as well and its a 4.3L. The 5.3L V8 in the trucks also uses AFM. http://gmauthority.com/blog/gm/gm-engines/lv3/#tab-2 They use the 6.2 displacement because it offers the greatest performance without any hindrance of MPG.

Please tell me how the Corvette is more efficient IRS than the Camaro? I'd love to see a REAL explanation not this simple statement.

Why are you so hung up on the dyno's? They can be EASILY manipulated to put out any number they want but the real results always show on the track. Transaxled Corvette with "huge" equipment advantages?? Does the Corvette have some magical set up that the Camaro doesn't? Im rightly confused in...

Its not really the transmission that was junk but the clutch and pedal feel. That was junk.

It didnt just have a "roll bar", it has a pretty decent cage in that BB car. You know, the same exact thing you whined about GM putting in theirs. There are never any "official" times from the 'Ring. Figured you would know that.

Matched it at the track??? Thats a bit of a stretch by anyones imagination. Its laughable that you are holding the Z/28 to the fire for its 7:37 time that was done in pretty shitty conditions (that you say werent that bad, oh right, you know so much about how the tarmac was when it ran) and it...