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What I learned: Clutch Replacment (NO LIFT)

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Just finished the dreaded clutch job on my 2016 GT. I did this on the floor of my shop with basic tools.

Here is some notes that may help people some day. First note: Its totally doable and no where near as bad as people make it out to be.

Jackstands and Car Positioning

If you wish to remove the transmission fully from under the car as I did, your typical harbor freight 3 ton jackstands are NOT sufficient for this job. While they are safe for the weight, they do not provide enough clearance to remove the transmission at all, especially on a low-lift transmission jack. I used these stand for this job and ended up having to tip the trans off the jack onto cardboard UNDER THE CAR, then jack the car higher off the stand, drag the trans out, then lower the car back down unto the stands. Which wasn't too bad. The problem is putting back up. Lifting the 150 pound back unto the jack UNDER THE CAR is a particular agony I hope nobody subjects themself to. Get taller 12 ton stands to get about 30 inches of lift, it will save your sanity.

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Soak the passenger side catalytic converter flange nuts in PB Blaster atleast a day or more before removing the exhaust. The bottom one is easy to get to, but the top one require about 4 feet of extensions to reach from the engine bay, this drastically limits the torque you can apply. Use 3/8s extensions and come from a very shallow angle along the exhaust manifold, and you can reach it without a swivel. SOAK THEM WELL, this much extension turns your ratchet into a giant torsion bar and limits your breakaway torque.

Transmission Removal

Unbolting the bellhousing bolts is the easiest part of this job. Yes this includes the top 2 bolts that many consider to be a pain in the rear end. Word of advise, do them first. Unbolt the cross-member from the body and swing the trans down. Remove the starter and do the passenger side one, even my big meaty arms fit up enough to guide the socket and 4 feet of extensions on to the bolt. Ratchet the bolt from the back of the transmission. The drivers side one is a bit harder, you'll have to guide the socket on from the extensions, you can see it pretty clearly laying down on a creeper looking up between the drivers side manifold and bellhousing. Easy - Peasy. Once the trans is unbolted put the shifter into 3rd gear to give you maximum clearance and slide the trans on to the cart. When reinstalling, pull the trans up to the block with the bottom 4 bolts, then install the top 2 last.

Clutch Kits

Do not use aftermarket slave-cylinders / throw out bearings. They are all crap. Use a OEM ford one, if you want a bit of a upgrade use the B variant that is found on the newer 18+ Mustangs, its double sealed and has a beefier throwout bearing. Its available from Ford. Thats what I used. Some clutch kits have a little concentric spacer included that is intended to be installed behind the throwout bearing, YOU MUST USE THIS SPACER even if you are using the OEM Throwout Bearing it prevents the overextension of the throwout bearing.

Miscellaneous

If you complete the clutch job and go for a spin and get a flashing check engine light and misfire on random cylinders, this is normal. You will need Forscan or access to a Bidirectional Scanner to preform a Misfire Neutral Profile Correction after install a new clutch or flywheel. (For most applications) The change in weight from your previous setup will make the car think its misfiring. The procedure is super simple, warm car up to operating temperature, start the procedure, rev engine to 4250 rpm as instructed, quickly let the throttle snap to idle when instructed, repeat if instructed. Takes 5 minutes. Just get forscan and a cheap scanner to do this, the dealer is going to take you for 175 or more dollars to do this simple procedure. A 2 month license to Forscan is free and approriate cable is 30 bucks, plus you get access to Forscan which can do a ton for you in the long run.

This is all stuff I would have wanted to know, maybe someone will find it useful one day.
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Did this help with the engagement point? I have a 17 and the engange is like the last inch. So much so that I'll think I'm still like 80% in the slipping zone and go to let finish letting it out just to realize my foot was just touching it and it was fully released. Doesent take much of a touch to push it and have the revs climb without power being transfered. It's so high I'm actually shocked it's not permanent engaged or at least partially engaged. I know the clutch has a cheap aftermarket adjuster option (ram thing) but I wonder if a clutch helps. Mine slams into engagement when shifting so I've been debating replacing it just to see what happens to see if it's my shifting or just shitty mt82 clutch things.
 
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The engagement seems slightly lower, not a ton. However the big change is engagement window is MUCH shallower, you dont have to press the pedal to the floor anymore to stop the high rpm lockouts. Its all up top and in the first half of the pedal. I personally like the engagment high so it never bothered me.
 

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The engagement seems slightly lower, not a ton. However the big change is engagement window is MUCH shallower, you dont have to press the pedal to the floor anymore to stop the high rpm lockouts. Its all up top and in the first half of the pedal. I personally like the engagment high so it never bothered me.
Does it hurt it to not push it fully? I always push it fully to try and reduce wear. Ive got BG fluids and a mfw shifter with a real heavy billetworkz knob. Even shifting at 8k (yeah ik, trying to prevent wear but holding the motor at 8k max redline ripping down the highway for like 15-30 seconds isn't exactly reducing wear). But no lockouts for me and I'm on the stick clutch (I think). 64-65k miles and nothing in the Carfax about a clutch.
 
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If its shifting fine your not hurting anything. Its really easy to overthink manuals but for the most part, if it feels right and its not slipping, its all good. If its working, I wouldnt mess with it either. These cars seem to naturally have a high engagement point.
 

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Was the 350 slave the same height as the gt one? The gt350 comes with a twin disc and suspected it's depth was set for this. Similar to the my2018+ twin disc.
 
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Correction, its not the Gt350 spec, I was fed bad information from the guy at the parts corner, the newer B revision is just a improvement that was brought about during the 2018+ model year. The GT350 one is a different height. It appears they both share the same updated bearing and seal
 

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At least for my S197, I never removed the transmission from under the car. I just slid it back as far as it could go.
 

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At least for my S197, I never removed the transmission from under the car. I just slid it back as far as it could go.
I'm debating tackling an RST clutch/alum fw job in the garage. Anyone do this without completely dropping the trans in a gen 3?

I did a clutch job like this about 20yrs ago in a buddie's c5. We just unhooked the torque tube, pulled it back some and slid the new stuff in and viola! That job was done quick.
 

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Great write up, thanks! I actually just had a new TOB, pilot bearing and OE clutch kit/pressure plate installed on my 2016 GT. I considered doing this work myself, but ended up paying a shop to do it for me and save my back. Definitely not cheap, and I'm little irritated the stock TOB didn't last longer, but nice to know it's all new again.

I've got the CEL showing misfire on cylinders 4 and 7. I've been wanting to get into Forscan for a while so this might be the reason why finally. I'd take it back to the shop to have them handle it, but finding time is difficult right now.
 

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I'm debating tackling an RST clutch/alum fw job in the garage. Anyone do this without completely dropping the trans in a gen 3?

I did a clutch job like this about 20yrs ago in a buddie's c5. We just unhooked the torque tube, pulled it back some and slid the new stuff in and viola! That job was done quick.

You have to drop the Trans to do a clutch, you may not have to remove it entirely, get some good quality 12 ton jackstands and a harbor freight low lift jack. Drop trans unto cart and slide back out of the way, change clutch, slide trans back up and in. I only pulled mine all the way out to clean and install the new TOB on the bench.
 
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Great write up, thanks! I actually just had a new TOB, pilot bearing and OE clutch kit/pressure plate installed on my 2016 GT. I considered doing this work myself, but ended up paying a shop to do it for me and save my back. Definitely not cheap, and I'm little irritated the stock TOB didn't last longer, but nice to know it's all new again.

I've got the CEL showing misfire on cylinders 4 and 7. I've been wanting to get into Forscan for a while so this might be the reason why finally. I'd take it back to the shop to have them handle it, but finding time is difficult right now.
This is the time. Adapter is 30-40 bucks and the procedure is a simple as it gets. Youll have it done in less time then it would take you to drive to the dealer
 

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This is the time. Adapter is 30-40 bucks and the procedure is a simple as it gets. Youll have it done in less time then it would take you to drive to the dealer
You're 100% right. I just did the reset over the weekend. Got the el cheapo ELM27 adapter for $18 (thanks Prime day!) and installed Forscan. Did the neutral misfire monitor profile correction procedure then reset the DTCs. It was as simple as following the onscreen prompts. I've put a couple hundred miles on the car since and the CEL hasn't reappeared.

Now I'm going to play around with Forscan to turn off that silly double honk "feature" and a couple other little things that have been nagging me. Thanks again mate!
 
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You're 100% right. I just did the reset over the weekend. Got the el cheapo ELM27 adapter for $18 (thanks Prime day!) and installed Forscan. Did the neutral misfire monitor profile correction procedure then reset the DTCs. It was as simple as following the onscreen prompts. I've put a couple hundred miles on the car since and the CEL hasn't reappeared.

Now I'm going to play around with Forscan to turn off that silly double honk "feature" and a couple other little things that have been nagging me. Thanks again mate!
I'm glad you experience paralleled mine! These cars aren't as scary to work on as people think they are. Keep having fun!
 

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