Poll: Is a GT500 an upgrade over a GT350?

[HoldenSSVandGT350]

…yea, but it’s in kilograms so it don’t count

. 3910 lbs empty with optional full size spare/wheel removed. They even put the battery in the trunk. Guess I should also state power levels in kilowatts/Newton Meters.

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[9secondko]

The answer to the poll is “TES.” The gt500 is a notable upgrade over the 350. And Ford developed it to be such.

some may prefer the style of the 350 or the manual transmission as subjective preferences.
But objectively, the gt500 is superior to the 350 in every performsnce metric. The only caveat is the base gt500 has only as good braking as the 350, whereas the track pack beats the 350 and the 350R.

so it’s an easier answer gt500>GT350. Objectively.

 

[PP0001]

The answer to the poll is “TES.” The gt500 is a notable upgrade over the 350. And Ford developed it to be such.

some may prefer the style of the 350 or the manual transmission as subjective preferences.
But objectively, the gt500 is superior to the 350 in every performsnce metric. The only caveat is the base gt500 has only as good braking as the 350, whereas the track pack beats the 350 and the 350R.

so it’s an easier answer gt500>GT350. Objectively.

If your decision is based totally on performance metrics alone and not driver engagement and/or enjoyment or future values, then the choice should be the GT500 but also keep in mind that the MSRP price difference between a GT350R and a GT500 CFTP model is ~$20,000 or more.

With respect to future values for either model in relation to MSRP, I suggest that the clear winner is the GT350R and especially when comparing the 2020 GT350R HEP V a 2022 GT500 CFTP HE models.

 

[UpACurb]

The answer to the poll is “TES.” The gt500 is a notable upgrade over the 350. And Ford developed it to be such.

some may prefer the style of the 350 or the manual transmission as subjective preferences.
But objectively, the gt500 is superior to the 350 in every performsnce metric. The only caveat is the base gt500 has only as good braking as the 350, whereas the track pack beats the 350 and the 350R.

so it’s an easier answer gt500>GT350. Objectively.

The Tesla Plaid then would be better then both because its the faster car?

 

[HoldenSSVandGT350]

The answer to the poll is “TES.” The gt500 is a notable upgrade over the 350. And Ford developed it to be such.

some may prefer the style of the 350 or the manual transmission as subjective preferences.
But objectively, the gt500 is superior to the 350 in every performsnce metric. The only caveat is the base gt500 has only as good braking as the 350, whereas the track pack beats the 350 and the 350R.

so it’s an easier answer gt500>GT350. Objectively.

You’ve changed the poll question with your own point of view. Then, the poll needed to ask “Is the GT500 an objective performance upgrade over the GT350?” And that answer is obvious.

Since it didn’t, here we are. Not an upgrade for me. Wanted a manual. Didn’t even want rev match or no lift shift. Had to have the FPC sound. Got them.

But, the poll % has now hit GT500 weight distribution lol.

5 hrs later Edit: now the poll has hit GT350 weight distribution.

 

[mabcim]

Been following, but just cast my vote as No.
Why?
1. I don’t want to hear a supercharger; want to hear NA V8.
2. Way more power than I need. Constantly worrying about it stepping out when I step on it is not fun. Sure with practice you can figure that out, be with the GT350 you rip it on day one. And where is the joy in getting to 60mph any faster than the GT350? It gets there more than fast enough and you can joy it more. With the GT500, not as much time to enjoy the ride to 60.

Realize I want to drive mine around town, track is not my focus. If tracking was more important, than maybe I’d have a different take. But for my needs, the GT500 is a downgrade.

 

[FlipC]

Stolen from google ai:
"The Shelby GT350 and GT500 are two vastly different apex predators. The GT350 is a high-revving, naturally aspirated track car with a manual transmission, while the GT500 is a supercharged, straight-line monster utilizing a lightning-fast dual-clutch transmission. [1, 2, 3, 4]

Performance Comparison
While both cars share a 5.2L displacement, their engine setups and performance specs differ entirely: [1]

Feature [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]Shelby GT350 / GT350RShelby GT500Engine5.2L Voodoo V8 (Naturally Aspirated)5.2L Predator V8 (Supercharged)
CrankshaftFlat-Plane CrankCross-Plane Crank
Redline8,250 RPM7,500 RPM
Horsepower526 hp760 hp
Torque429 lb-ft625 lb-ft
Transmission6-speed Manual7-speed Dual-Clutch Automatic
0 ÷ 60 mph~ 4.0 seconds~ 3.0 seconds

Driving Dynamics & Purpose

• The GT350 (The Precision Tool): Designed for twisty tracks and road courses. Its flat-plane crank engine wails like a Ferrari, offering immediate throttle response and a visceral, analog driving experience. It is a lighter, sharper car prioritizing handling and driver engagement. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5]
• The GT500 (The Straight-Line Beast): Built to dominate the drag strip and highway pulls. The supercharger provides massive, asphalt-melting torque. With its dual-clutch transmission, it fires off shifts incredibly fast, making it a more effortless car to drive fast in a straight line, though it carries more weight over the front axle than the GT350"

Couldn't have said it better myself!

 

[mavisky]

Yes an upgrade.

The 911 GT2 is an upgrade over the 911 GT3, but just like the GT500 vs GT350 it's heavier and doesn't sound as good and only comes with a dual clutch transmission. Doesn't mean it's not faster in almost every single scenario. However, just like the GT350, there are still those who prefer the GT3 for the driving experience vs outright speed and metrics.

 

[geep81]

However, just like the GT350, there are still those who prefer the GT3 for the driving experience vs outright speed and metrics.

Right, so the 500 isn't really an upgrade then maybe? It lost a lot of what people who love the 350 value. HP and lap times aren't all there are to a car, so calling it an upgrade only because it's faster doesn't really seem correct with the nuances we all know exist between the cars.

I think it could only be an upgrade if it took what made the 350 so good and improved on it, instead it lost much of what makes a 350 special and did its own thing.

It simply can't be an upgrade over the 350 in my book because it does not offer a manual option.

 

[WItoTX]

Agree, the 500 is objectively a less good car. Too heavy, too softly sprung, and punching at it's belt, at best.

Relative to a comparable GM product, the Z28 and/or the SS1LE is the comparative car to the 350. And the 350 is the better car all day. Meanwhile, CFTP500 vs ZLE, the ZLE is the better car all day.

500, for it's class, is objectively less good, than the 350.

 

[Whitedevil95]

This is such a silly argument. The 350 guys up in here getting their panties in a wad, because they like believing their car is the greatest mustang ever produced.

YES - The GT500 is an UPGRADE over a GT350.

YOU, might prefer a manual car heck I did which is why I bought my Mach 1. However the 500 is more valuable and faster in every metric, with a faster shifting transmission. It IS an UPGRADE. You might think the manual experience is better, or the voodoo sounds nicer(when its not rod knocking or burning quarts of oil). But if we are just looking at it fairly, its an upgrade.

 

[HoldenSSVandGT350]

This is such a silly argument. The 350 guys up in here getting their panties in a wad, because they like believing their car is the greatest mustang ever produced.

YES - The GT500 is an UPGRADE over a GT350.

YOU, might prefer a manual car heck I did which is why I bought my Mach 1. However the 500 is more valuable and faster in every metric, with a faster shifting transmission. It IS an UPGRADE. You might think the manual experience is better, or the voodoo sounds nicer(when its not rod knocking or burning quarts of oil). But if we are just looking at it fairly, its an upgrade.

“Rod knocking or burning quarts of oil”
“….350 guys getting their panties in a wad…”
“…500 faster and more valuable…”
“…YOU, might prefer a manual…..”

- Checks sig:

Oh, it’s that other guy.

- Checks poll results:

Oh damn, it’s now about to hit 50/50 lol.

 

[HoldenSSVandGT350]

Yes an upgrade.

The 911 GT2 is an upgrade over the 911 GT3, but just like the GT500 vs GT350 it's heavier and doesn't sound as good and only comes with a dual clutch transmission. Doesn't mean it's not faster in almost every single scenario. However, just like the GT350, there are still those who prefer the GT3 for the driving experience vs outright speed and metrics.

3 contradictions in the first sentence of the main paragraph. But, yes, a GT2 or GT500 are faster than a GT3 or GT350 in most any situation. So yes, if that’s what you seek then it is obviously an upgrade. But, the Porsche GT boards are full of threads just like this where the 9K rpm Metzger engine crew will not have anything to do with the GT2’s TT monster of an F6. And, some also have GT350s from what I’ve read.

Btw, I have J0028, you’re the closest I’ve seen so far in production order.

 

[HoldenSSVandGT350]

Agree, the 500 is objectively a less good car. Too heavy, too softly sprung, and punching at it's belt, at best.

Relative to a comparable GM product, the Z28 and/or the SS1LE is the comparative car to the 350. And the 350 is the better car all day. Meanwhile, CFTP500 vs ZLE, the ZLE is the better car all day.

500, for it's class, is objectively less good, than the 350.

lol at ZLE! I know what you meant haha. The ZL1 and ZL1 1LE have certain shortcomings, but, they both offer the great Tremec TR6060. And, even though they make 110 less hp they will run neck and neck to 60 and way too close in the 1/4 mile and on a road course stock for stock because that GM eLSD with the Performance Traction Management programming puts down the power. F with them at your own peril

 

[Whitedevil95]

“Rod knocking or burning quarts of oil”
“….350 guys getting their panties in a wad…”
“…500 faster and more valuable…”
“…YOU, might prefer a manual…..”

- Checks sig:

Oh, it’s that other guy.

- Checks poll results:

Oh damn, it’s now about to hit 50/50 lol.

People are answer the poll with their personal preferences. Its retarded. If you like manual you like manual for a preference, but the car is seated well below the GT500(which is an upgrade). That manual transmission will help it be slower than the 500, on top of the extra 234hp its missing and being completely guttless in the mid range. Its fine if peole LIKE the 350 or its sounds. But it slower in a straight line and around a track and worth LESS. Not sure where this upgrade lies?

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