Who will swap for the new 7.3 V8!

[engineermike]

Just a reminder: Ford's two premier racing ventures that involve road racing while using a V-8 also uses pushrods.
NASCAR
Australian Super Cars

Anything else and you must pray to hear about the outcome on the day the race took place.

There’s something wrong with your processor, man. That’s all I can say at this point.

I wonder if a team using bats will win baseball again this weekend.

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[BmacIL]

There’s something wrong with your processor, man. That’s all I can say at this point.

I wonder if a team using bats will win baseball again this weekend.

Almost spit out my drink!

 

[Norm Peterson]

But that is the essence of a muscle car. Big engine - small car. In fact automakers are trying so hard to make the perfect sports car they forget that some of use still like the loud and rowdy bastard car called hot rods.

Hot Rod: a motor vehicle that has been specially modified to give it extra power and speed.

“The term "hot rod" has had various uses in relation to performance cars. For example, the Ontario Ministry of the Environment in its vehicle emissions regulations, refers to a hot rod as any motorized vehicle that has a replacement engine differing from the factory original.[5]”

So under the formal definition and my own government that 7.3 Mustang “is” a “hot rod”!

How about that!

A muscle car always was kind of a hot rod, given that base-level trims of the same chassis only got inline six and small-displacement (for the time) 2-barrel V8 engines.

Same basic approach - big engine/smaller car - just done on the assembly line potentially one right after another instead of as individual projects here and there under the tree with a block & tackle and a case of beer.

So yeah, what you're proposing to build is a hot rod. That it's not going to look like a '32 Ford is irrelevant.


Norm

 

[Norm Peterson]

FWIW, they aren't trying to build the "perfect sports car" either. Achieving numbers that in most respects are really, really good sports car numbers isn't quite the same thing.

For one thing, they still haven't figured out how to add enough lightness.


Norm

 

[Erik427]

Because regulations. Do you even think?

Ford used to run the 5.0 Cammer in Australian Supercars.
They switched because of cost.......
Nissan uses overhead cams by the way while Ford uses a Windsor based motor.

Ford also chose to not even try and convince NASCAR to allow for the Coyote.
The bore to stroke ratio is poor and the lack of cid deemed it uncompetitive.
The 5.4/5.8 is too heavy and a very high center of gravity.

Face it.......The Coyote is not the Super Motor you think it is.

Where the Coyote fails.......a pushrod motor is used to pick up the slack.
Each time.....Every time.

7.3 swaps are coming.

 

[Erik427]

Almost spit out my drink!

You know I'm right......nobody is watching the other crap.
Just a bunch of empty seats and you guys desperately trying to convince otherwise.

Do you really want to keep trying too push the "Piston Slap" lottery on people?

The 7.3 fixes all the problems.

 

[JPSTANG]

This is good stuff...lol have to go get more popcorn.

 

[Norm Peterson]

You know I'm right......nobody is watching the other crap.
Just a bunch of empty seats and you guys desperately trying to convince otherwise.

Popularity among NHRA and NASCAR fans is just that - popularity among those who get their excitement fix out of . . . just watching.


Norm

 

[Norm Peterson]

Ford used to run the 5.0 Cammer in Australian Supercars.
They switched because of cost.......
Nissan uses overhead cams by the way while Ford uses a Windsor based motor.

Ford also chose to not even try and convince NASCAR to allow for the Coyote.
The bore to stroke ratio is poor and the lack of cid deemed it uncompetitive.
The 5.4/5.8 is too heavy and a very high center of gravity.

Face it.......The Coyote is not the Super Motor you think it is.

Where the Coyote fails.......a pushrod motor is used to pick up the slack.
Each time.....Every time.

7.3 swaps are coming.

I dare say that a 1980's design pushrod engine series using most of the modular's key dimensions (valve sizes excepted, of course) would have had all of the Coyote's shortcomings . . . and then some.

This 7.3 would probably best compare to the Terminator Mustang's motor.


Norm

 

[BmacIL]

Ford used to run the 5.0 Cammer in Australian Supercars.
They switched because of cost.......
Nissan uses overhead cams by the way while Ford uses a Windsor based motor.

Ford also chose to not even try and convince NASCAR to allow for the Coyote.
The bore to stroke ratio is poor and the lack of cid deemed it uncompetitive.
The 5.4/5.8 is too heavy and a very high center of gravity.

Face it.......The Coyote is not the Super Motor you think it is.

Where the Coyote fails.......a pushrod motor is used to pick up the slack.
Each time.....Every time.

7.3 swaps are coming.

More bullshit. Keep it up sourceless, logicless Joe.

 

[AirBusPilot]

Ford used to run the 5.0 Cammer in Australian Supercars.
They switched because of cost.......
Nissan uses overhead cams by the way while Ford uses a Windsor based motor.

Ford also chose to not even try and convince NASCAR to allow for the Coyote.
The bore to stroke ratio is poor and the lack of cid deemed it uncompetitive.
The 5.4/5.8 is too heavy and a very high center of gravity.

Face it.......The Coyote is not the Super Motor you think it is.

Where the Coyote fails.......a pushrod motor is used to pick up the slack.
Each time.....Every time.

7.3 swaps are coming.

NASCAR rules prohibit over head cam engines, period. Ford never tried to convince NASCAR to use the Coyote. It has nothing to do with B/S, or any other claims you make. This information is readily available.

The old Windsor engine was dropped along time ago. Ford designed a special NASCAR pushrod engined, just for NASCAR use, and it doesn’t share anything with the old Windsor engine. Seems the old Windsor engine wasn’t competitive.

 

[Fatguy]

A muscle car always was kind of a hot rod, given that base-level trims of the same chassis only got inline six and small-displacement (for the time) 2-barrel V8 engines.

Same basic approach - big engine/smaller car - just done on the assembly line potentially one right after another instead of as individual projects here and there under the tree with a block & tackle and a case of beer.

So yeah, what you're proposing to build is a hot rod. That it's not going to look like a '32 Ford is irrelevant.


Norm

Norm, you are without a doubt one classy guy, especially around here. So this one is for you, enjoy (sorry it’s 2018 music but if you give up on the present you begin to become irrelevant):

 

[TexasRebel]

There’s something wrong with your processor, man. That’s all I can say at this point.

I wonder if a team using bats will win baseball again this weekend.

Wood is better than Aluminum or composite... Just look at the MLB.

 

[Erik427]

More bullshit. Keep it up sourceless, logicless Joe.

Good Grief.......

I'm not against DOHC motors.
In fact, I'm all for them.
But the Coyote just has too many fuses to pull.
I'm not losing my hard earned treasure to fix this time bomb.
Would rather try my luck with something else (7.3).

There is a whole section on this forum that says you're wrong.
Would you care to insult those people too?

Face it, the time has come for Ford to change over to a different engine.
Either design a new DOHC V-8 and we know that will never happen.
Or use the 7.3 platform.

It really is just that simple.

 

[engineermike]

There is a whole section on this forum that says you're wrong.

Link to section, please.

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