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I should have said lower and stiffer.
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If you get a "base" GT 350 without Magneride, what struts/shocks do you get?
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Okay ??? what side of the fence are you on? I could not tell..... lower rider height means? lower by tire size or lower by springs?:eyebulge:
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Another aspect to consider is the reliability and the cost of maintenance / replacement of the MR components when compared to the standard steel suspension. I've had adaptable suspension on several previous cars, and the prospect of having these items serviced was pretty grim.
The difference in technology between MR and its ferrous fluid vs. the others which all employed variable valve controls would tend to make me think that MR could be more durable and cheaper to service since it (presumably) doesn't have all of the moving parts that the variable valve systems employ. The question though is whether the special juice in the MR system is derived from unicorn tears and unobtanium for the ferrous materials, and therefore will come with a commensurate price tag.
The difference in technology between MR and its ferrous fluid vs. the others which all employed variable valve controls would tend to make me think that MR could be more durable and cheaper to service since it (presumably) doesn't have all of the moving parts that the variable valve systems employ. The question though is whether the special juice in the MR system is derived from unicorn tears and unobtanium for the ferrous materials, and therefore will come with a commensurate price tag.
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I'll chime in my experience with standard dampers vs. Magnetic Ride.
I had the standard Z51 suspension w/o MagRide (GM uses Bilstein dampers on standard setups) on my previous '14 C7 Stingray. It was firm as it should be yet rode fine and comfortable enough for urban driving.... it handled wel so no complaints. My '15 Z06 has Magnetic Ride suspension and I can frankly say it is a clear night & day difference due to the ability to vary/change different suspension settings... from comfort to sporty to race stiff at anytime. The continuous and transparent suspension adjustments are also testament to its advanced capabilities. Relative comfort for the streets when wanted.... and tenacious damping and balance on the track when needed.
Therefore IMO, it's a must have for me when I found out it would be available on the new GT350. This doesn't mean the standard dampers is not good at all... because it still is. Personally, I just prefer the pro-active versatility and advanced technology of the magnetic ride suspension system.
Basically, I'd just think of it as from "great" to "greater" in terms of damping performance when comparing standard vs. MagneRide.
I had the standard Z51 suspension w/o MagRide (GM uses Bilstein dampers on standard setups) on my previous '14 C7 Stingray. It was firm as it should be yet rode fine and comfortable enough for urban driving.... it handled wel so no complaints. My '15 Z06 has Magnetic Ride suspension and I can frankly say it is a clear night & day difference due to the ability to vary/change different suspension settings... from comfort to sporty to race stiff at anytime. The continuous and transparent suspension adjustments are also testament to its advanced capabilities. Relative comfort for the streets when wanted.... and tenacious damping and balance on the track when needed.
Therefore IMO, it's a must have for me when I found out it would be available on the new GT350. This doesn't mean the standard dampers is not good at all... because it still is. Personally, I just prefer the pro-active versatility and advanced technology of the magnetic ride suspension system.
Basically, I'd just think of it as from "great" to "greater" in terms of damping performance when comparing standard vs. MagneRide.
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It seems there is a good amount of people who don't know what MagneRide is... or what it does.
These are the same people who want to lower their car... & for why? Because they lowered their last car..? There has to be a REASON. If you understand whats been done, you might not want to undo it. So unless you have a team of engineers, and have laptops & sensitive equipment to tune a suspension, you are just talking backyard garage mechanic trash.
On the stiffest track setting you aftermarkets won't matter.
Unless you buying high-end Motons, etc.. and you know what you are doing. Otherwise... You don't! Even the best Motons or Ohlins won't compensate while taking a reduce radius turn, or work in concert with the other 3 wheels, when 1 hits uneven surface, etc.
If you put aftermarket on, be prepared to have a jittery bumpy daily commute... all so you can pretend to be an suspension engineer.. and ultimately end up with a less performing car. But if your GT350 is going to see track duty nearly every weekend and road commute is not a concern, then have at it.
Otherwise learn what a team of engineers can do, that you can not...
These are the same people who want to lower their car... & for why? Because they lowered their last car..? There has to be a REASON. If you understand whats been done, you might not want to undo it. So unless you have a team of engineers, and have laptops & sensitive equipment to tune a suspension, you are just talking backyard garage mechanic trash.
On the stiffest track setting you aftermarkets won't matter.
Unless you buying high-end Motons, etc.. and you know what you are doing. Otherwise... You don't! Even the best Motons or Ohlins won't compensate while taking a reduce radius turn, or work in concert with the other 3 wheels, when 1 hits uneven surface, etc.
If you put aftermarket on, be prepared to have a jittery bumpy daily commute... all so you can pretend to be an suspension engineer.. and ultimately end up with a less performing car. But if your GT350 is going to see track duty nearly every weekend and road commute is not a concern, then have at it.
Otherwise learn what a team of engineers can do, that you can not...
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I just wish mag ride was a stand alone option. You gotta pay for a lot of other stuff to get it.
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That's what I was hoping for. I would love to have it but I'm not willing to pay $7500 for it. I told myself I wouldn't pay over $55k for this car so I will have to make due without the magneride.
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Food for though...(I do not know your finance position of course) however...this is my thinking....
1) re-sale down the road will be better with magnerride.
2) I believe maintenance will be less, less moving parts to go wrong (I could be wrong on this, but from what I have read)
3) the payments on this, would not go up that much for 6,500 dollars (track pack) spread out over 74 months which is what you should be able to get (or close)
Get what YOU want (don't settle) sounds like your stretching to get the car anyway, might-as-well stretch your self all the way.....:shrug:
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Maintenance for what would be less? Fewer moving parts than what? If you mean the suspension specifically with Magneride you now have electronics and wiring that can potentially fail or become damaged. Then software issues could pop up. The physical shocks and struts can still fail like anything else, cost per unit is most definitely going to be much higher than conventional parts.
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Unfortunately we don't know yet but I wouldn't be surprised if GT350 specific sport tuned Bilsteins are the standard dampers.
With Magride equipped, the "benefit:cost" ratio is favorable IMO.... I am not going to mod my GT350 so the factory engineered suspension with full warranty is fine with me. I have it in my C7 and it performs very well on & off the track. I suspect the same confidence inspiring asset with the new Shelby.
With Magride equipped, the "benefit:cost" ratio is favorable IMO.... I am not going to mod my GT350 so the factory engineered suspension with full warranty is fine with me. I have it in my C7 and it performs very well on & off the track. I suspect the same confidence inspiring asset with the new Shelby.
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My car will not be spending every week at the track, just some amateur autocross and such. So making the car look how I want, IE lowered an inch or so, is worth what ever tiny bit I may lose on the track. But my hope is for a Ford Racing spring set to come out...
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Honestly, very little has been said about the base car since ford doesn't anticipate making many of those. But at a minimum I would expect different springs/dampers/roll bars vs a PPGT.
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The base will likely have different equipment from the GT/PP and the if/what/when of applicable aftermarket options is unknown.
The base car is nothing but a marketing ploy. This becomes apparent when you read the commentary when associated media is published. I believe not taking a Tech or Track package is going to cost you more in the long run.
The base car is nothing but a marketing ploy. This becomes apparent when you read the commentary when associated media is published. I believe not taking a Tech or Track package is going to cost you more in the long run.
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