Sponsored

Why the V6 is the Best Choice

Fox5.0

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 30, 2014
Threads
7
Messages
498
Reaction score
121
Location
So Cal
Vehicle(s)
2015 Mustang GT PP magnetic
Would you trade your gt fot a gt350?
The sentra is just a winter beater but it has a t25 turbo setup from a bluebird it would surprise you...
Of course for monetary value but we don't know much about the 5.2... For all we know, 6 months into production it could be the worst motor produced.( heavily doubt it.) to say it's the best is just wrong though, hasn't been proven. The 3.7 and 5.0 are well proven engines that can last.

I'm not bashing your car... Just to make remarks about someone's mustang is rude and immature, they bought a v6 for their own justified reasons. Some people just don't want an 8 that sucks gas or causes insurance rates to rocket.
Luckily my commute to work isn't long so I don't have to worry about gas but if I had to travel 20-30 miles one way I would be in a world of hurt on my gas bill.

Also for 23k? It will hold its own with infinit G's, 370, and most other high price sports cars. IMO, the best bargain for cheap power.
Sponsored

 

Joe_Stang

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 20, 2015
Threads
16
Messages
1,114
Reaction score
106
Location
Glen Burnie, Maryland
First Name
Joe
Vehicle(s)
2015 Mustang Ecoboost Premium
Of course for monetary value but we don't know much about the 5.2... For all we know, 6 months into production it could be the worst motor produced.( heavily doubt it.) to say it's the best is just wrong though, hasn't been proven. The 3.7 and 5.0 are well proven engines that can last.

I'm not bashing your car... Just to make remarks about someone's mustang is rude and immature, they bought a v6 for their own justified reasons. Some people just don't want an 8 that sucks gas or causes insurance rates to rocket.
Luckily my commute to work isn't long so I don't have to worry about gas but if I had to travel 20-30 miles one way I would be in a world of hurt on my gas bill.

Also for 23k? It will hold its own with infinit G's, 370, and most other high price sports cars. IMO, the best bargain for cheap power.
Correct in saying it will hold its own. My v6 beats many cars on the road as it sits now. I've beaten a bmw 335i xdrive , mazdaspeed 3 and 6, several focus ST's and a 350z. I'm not bragging at all just saying this car is quick for the price you pay and can be a lot faster with bolt ons.
 

gtlaw

JcRoush hater
Joined
Oct 14, 2014
Threads
5
Messages
329
Reaction score
98
Location
pittsburgh
Vehicle(s)
a car
Again its just in response to the v6 being the "best" that statement deserves scrutiny. yes i would rather have a v6 mustang than most other crap on the road but to say its the best choice is hillariulous. Simply put i wouldn't be buying a mustang if it was the only choice
 

thehunterooo

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 6, 2014
Threads
23
Messages
3,254
Reaction score
1,065
Location
FL
Vehicle(s)
2006 Corvette
I think cost wise it varies from person to person. My insurance only went up $10 a month compared to the 3.7 I had, though there are a ton of variables so who knows, I wouldn't expect a huge jump in rates though, if any. I am also getting one less MPG overall as well, I was expecting a bigger gap but can't complain with that! One other thing I think that is overlooked is resale/KBB, etc. the GT is quite a bit more money but it will also have more value down the road, subtract that gap between the two from the GT MSRP and be difference wouldn't be so big ( though if you finance there would be more interest expense on the larger loan amounts of course). When I bought my 3.7 I didn't even consider the GT because I thought it would cost too much, but in my case it barely costs more ( the roll over killed me though).

I also disagree with the V6 forced induction route, I spent countless hours researching into the procharger kits for my 3.7, but in the end it didn't make sense on my case. For the 14, the kit will run about $5000 or so, and i would have to have it installed at a shop, maybe another $1000 or so. That's $6000 give or take before the custom tune needed on the 14's. I would also swap the driveshaft out as well espically considering the two piece design was not meant to handle the extra loads. And of course some better tires as well :D. Then after its all said and done there is not much more that could be done power wise except for building the engine for more boost but who knows what that would run. The procharged 3.7's are sick but I just can't see the price advantage to the GT in that case.
 

Joe_Stang

Well-Known Member
Joined
Feb 20, 2015
Threads
16
Messages
1,114
Reaction score
106
Location
Glen Burnie, Maryland
First Name
Joe
Vehicle(s)
2015 Mustang Ecoboost Premium
Still comes out to be cheaper then a GT. I'll just use estimates here for my example. Let's say you pay 27000 for the 051A Package v6 and put another 7000 into it for the procharger and install etc. That's only 34000 into the car. A base GT costs atleast 35000. Those numbers are just estimates though could cost less depending on price of car, price of procharger install etc. Now don't get me wrong a GT is probably a better investment overall but the v6 can be just as fast as a GT with a tune and some bolt ons for less money. And I like the v8 more of course so I'm not downing it at all.
 

Sponsored

Tamadrummer88

Finicky
Joined
Oct 22, 2014
Threads
97
Messages
2,061
Reaction score
322
Location
Austin, TX.
First Name
John
Vehicle(s)
2015 Mustang EcoBoost Premium
And your insurance would be higher, and the MSRP would be higher, and the sales tax would be higher, and the gas would be more, and the f/r balance would be front, and the car would be heavy.

See. That's what I mean. In practice, the V8 is expensive for a lot of different reasons. And the eB, if you aren't a tooner and you aren't racing, isn't as smooth around town, and first gear is flat, and it runs out at 4500. So the V6 is the best. THat's what I mean.
I test drove a few used Shelbys recently. Cool, but not fun on a daily basis. I like to use all an engine has, not just the first 3200 rpm. I like to push it, push it real good. It's the same with motorcycles. An R1 is just get too powerful to enjoy. You're always chomping at the bit.
Making condescending remarks like that about other models really isn't helping you justify your purchase.
 

gtlaw

JcRoush hater
Joined
Oct 14, 2014
Threads
5
Messages
329
Reaction score
98
Location
pittsburgh
Vehicle(s)
a car
Still comes out to be cheaper then a GT. I'll just use estimates here for my example. Let's say you pay 27000 for the 051A Package v6 and put another 7000 into it for the procharger and install etc. That's only 34000 into the car. A base GT costs atleast 35000. Those numbers are just estimates though could cost less depending on price of car, price of procharger install etc. Now don't get me wrong a GT is probably a better investment overall but the v6 can be just as fast as a GT with a tune and some bolt ons for less money. And I like the v8 more of course so I'm not downing it at all.
after rebates and x-plan my base GTPP with recaros will be roughly 33,000.. if the decision is purely economic supercharging a v6 to equal the performance of the GT is insane once you buy brakes wheels and tires you'll be way over the cost of the GT and the resale value will be terrible
 

Bay1Stang

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 9, 2014
Threads
11
Messages
1,055
Reaction score
226
Location
NJ
Vehicle(s)
Magnetic '15 V6 051a
Supercharing for price/performance makes most sense on the $23,800 base manual model so it comes out to around $29k for it all.

But imo if you want 400+ hp it doesn't make sense to get anything but the GT. I see the procharger as something you add down the line when the warranty is out and you're looking to maybe spruce up the car or something.

IMO the V6 and Eco are all about getting a great package in the mid 20's range. Once you start paying 30k might as well be the GT.
 

BmacIL

Enginerd
Joined
Sep 21, 2014
Threads
69
Messages
14,989
Reaction score
8,911
Location
Naperville, IL
Vehicle(s)
2015 Guard GT Base, M/T
Vehicle Showcase
1
Supercharing for price/performance makes most sense on the $23,800 base manual model so it comes out to around $29k for it all.

But imo if you want 400+ hp it doesn't make sense to get anything but the GT. I see the procharger as something you add down the line when the warranty is out and you're looking to maybe spruce up the car or something.

IMO the V6 and Eco are all about getting a great package in the mid 20's range. Once you start paying 30k might as well be the GT.
Bingo. If your budget is around mid 20's, the V6 is (IMO) the best choice.
 

E.jaba

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 23, 2014
Threads
26
Messages
239
Reaction score
35
Location
Madrid, before in Chicago
Vehicle(s)
DIB V6 AT51a 3.55 ... Bullitt ordered
Even if it's the best choice as DD and more....
don't know why i can't stop thinking on upgrading to a GT :headbonk: ...
haha
 

Sponsored

davekro

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 6, 2015
Threads
64
Messages
1,742
Reaction score
247
Location
East SF Bay Area
First Name
Dave
Vehicle(s)
Convertible, 3.7L, A/T, 051A, DIB
Supercharing for price/performance makes most sense on the $23,800 base manual model so it comes out to around $29k for it all.

But imo if you want 400+ hp it doesn't make sense to get anything but the GT. I see the procharger as something you add down the line when the warranty is out and you're looking to maybe spruce up the car or something.

IMO the V6 and Eco are all about getting a great package in the mid 20's range. Once you start paying 30k might as well be the GT.
Well unless you are one of us 'gotta be a convertible' guys!
Our addiction cost us a $5,500 bump... but glad to pay it. :D
I am quite happy with my $34,000 OTD for convertible V6, A/T, 051A (+spare & A/W mats) :)
 
OP
OP
Jamo

Jamo

Well-Known Member
Joined
Apr 2, 2014
Threads
26
Messages
356
Reaction score
33
Location
Twin Lakes, WI
Vehicle(s)
1997 Cobra Coupe
The biggest negative I can think of for the V6 really has nothing to do with the quality of the enigne itself. I'm afraid that it will probably be dropped by Ford, that the EcoBoost is the engine of the future and everyone is going to want one of those, and no one is going to want the old V6 when it comes time to selling it.
 

thehunterooo

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 6, 2014
Threads
23
Messages
3,254
Reaction score
1,065
Location
FL
Vehicle(s)
2006 Corvette
:cheers:I didn't even get into warranty :D The 3.7 represents a huge value for the money and it cant be beat at that price point by anything considering the quality of the car and engine but I cant see many people going into the dealer to buy the 3.7 only to then drop it off at a shop and spend $7000+ cash on mods. Not trying to flame or anything but I was in the position of "should I procharge or trade in for a GT" and that's how I ended up with everything, I spent a lot of time and thinking about it. I also was thinking of doing a full bolt on build as well but again it just didn't interest me at the time, probably because the car in stock form was so good already haha :cheers:

I just checked the 3.7 vs GT in KBB, 2011 both base cars etc, the 3.7 trade in was 13500 or so and the GT was at almost 20000. The six gen cars should hold value even better though, will be interesting to see if the eco has an effect on prices.

Jamo, what do you mean by "the people are nicer"?
 

VIN666

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 9, 2013
Threads
8
Messages
409
Reaction score
29
Location
MI
Vehicle(s)
many
Fwiw. I bought a brand new brz last year and supercharged it within 800 miles...
Really not a big deal. Plus, you can take it off prior to selling the car.
Sponsored

 
 








Top