Flock cameras track more than your license plate, and they're spreading fast

[Bikeman315]

And you have an issue with Fordpass....

Flock cameras track more than your license plate, and they're spreading fast

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[1 old racer]

This is not far from the SiFi movie Eagle Eye.

 

[Swtbabybilly]

Unfortunately its not a shock this is happening

 

[-RAC-]

https://deflock.org/

Here you can report new cameras and see where current cameras are at.

Currently there is a big discussion about their use in my area. The political actors are nervous about them but the police are insisting on using them to create the surveillance state.

 

[308 Cal. Bullitt]

Approximate number of ~1500 data centers currently being built, the breakdown of them by location is;

South: 754 planned data centers (led by major developments in Texas and Georgia).

Midwest: 419 planned data centers (with Ohio becoming a major hotspot).

West: 277 planned data centers.

Northeast: 106 planned data centers.

They vary greatly in size, but on average are about ~250 acres per site.

As George Carlin often pointed out, words & phrases matter alot. We clearly learned this lesson yet again, over the past decade, with several topics, including genders.

Also, the mostly peaceful protests, that destroyed billions in property, & killed several pple, was a popular phrase of twisting reality.

They call them Data Centers,
yet want you to believe they are Ai centers.

Should be that whole crowd of posters comin in here soon, saying they have nothing to hide - so they don't care about their 4th amendment rights, or right to privacy inside their vehicles, since Facebook & Google already does that.

If this situation doesn't increase the value of our pre- '24 MY Mustang vehicles,
(over the newest models)
nothing likely will.

Our S550 GT500's have done well on their own already, but I'll take another bump up in price from the surveillance state.

Also, vehicle manufacturers are currently threatening to leave the state of California if they cannot glean & sell your personal information, collected from your vehicle & sent to their data center collection facilities.

It's being disguised as a domestic abuse tracking situation it may seem. Looks like a game of chicken to collect data.


Automakers could halt car sales in California without delay in vehicle tracking law | Reuters

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[Jimmy Dean]

They call them Data Centers,
yet want you to believe they are Ai centers.


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TBF a lot of it is, probably most, is for AI. Because that is the only method of sorting, retrieving, and distributing the massive amount of data they are collecting and will be adding to collection with new methods.

Prior LPRs for example would use a basic imaging software to decode the license plate, and if you didn't have a license plate it may be SOL, and the database would need to be queried for 'beige sedan' then people go through 100s or 1000s of pictures in an area of beige sedans to find/track the right one.

These new systems, combined with AI, can notify and track based off of the specific driver, or a scratch on the rear quarter panel, or the amount of dirt on the car but recognize when it has been washed and remove that from the algorithm going forward and track in conjunction with other features going forward etc.

 

[308 Cal. Bullitt]

TBF a lot of it is, probably most, is for AI. Because that is the only method of sorting, retrieving, and distributing the massive amount of data they are collecting and will be adding to collection with new methods.

Prior LPRs for example would use a basic imaging software to decode the license plate, and if you didn't have a license plate it may be SOL, and the database would need to be queried for 'beige sedan' then people go through 100s or 1000s of pictures in an area of beige sedans to find/track the right one.

These new systems, combined with AI, can notify and track based off of the specific driver, or a scratch on the rear quarter panel, or the amount of dirt on the car but recognize when it has been washed and remove that from the algorithm going forward and track in conjunction with other features going forward etc.

They don't need a license plate to identify you. Rather than me do an educational thread on that, just look up how the latest LPRs can aggregate your daily vehicle pics & determine who you are.

Then use things already (on/in) your vehicle-

things as simple as your ph's own ID, or the TPMS sensors in your 4 wheels, or your incar Bluetooth, to know who you are-

even if you change your cars appearance daily/weekly.

License plates will soon be the last thing the camera needs, to aggregate and store your data & the data of everyone in the vehicle-
in the supposed Ai centers you speak of - as Data centers...

1 option you won't see car manufacturers offering is a ferriday cage or box that you can put devices in to block them or the cameras from gleaning info.

The biggest regret that car manufacturers have is not seeing that Facebook was free because the people using it were the product, & knowing how many hours a week & yr everyone spends in their cars, they missed the boat on the best source of revenue they could have ever built out a decade ago.

Owning anything new today, especially beyond '24 MY, will not be all that desirable to people who still want privacy when driving spirited... or not...

 

[pinksurfer]

read a story about the bombing in monaco and that they can see the suspect coming into the country and follow him everywhere as they have tons of cameras. I am completely ok with this as a crime tracking tool and I would applaud if someone committed a crime against me and these helped pin the culprit.
I am also ok with the cops in henderson scanning license plates at red lights in their cars checking for uninsured motorists or expired tags that might lead to other "finds"... be legal or don't be on the road.

where we need guardrails are the data being used for other purposes or sold. but with our current state of the country/economy/politics/money to be had, it'll never be simply a tool to solve crime which is sad....

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[Jimmy Dean]

read a story about the bombing in monaco and that they can see the suspect coming into the country and follow him everywhere as they have tons of cameras. I am completely ok with this as a crime tracking tool and I would applaud if someone committed a crime against me and these helped pin the culprit.
I am also ok with the cops in henderson scanning license plates at red lights in their cars checking for uninsured motorists or expired tags that might lead to other "finds"... be legal or don't be on the road.

where we need guardrails are the data being used for other purposes or sold. but with our current state of the country/economy/politics/money to be had, it'll never be simply a tool to solve crime which is sad....

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that's the rub. The tools would be great in the hands of a benevolent government. In anyone else's hands, they are a tool of oppression.

just like AI could be great and useful in the hands of the layperson, with explicit and detailed how to's for tasks, diagnostics on various home issues, presenting plot diagrams and schedules for planting a garden in your yard, etc. But instead, it is, and will remain, solely controlled by business interests to reduce manpower costs and syphon profits upwards. The amount of quiet layoffs going on in the engineering field right now are staggering as both EPCs and Clients mandate AI usage onto their workforce, then demand lower hours or increased productivity, then layoff the new overage.

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