Michelin Pilot Sport 4S vs OE

[Bullitt_Will]

Currently in the market for new tires, but I am having a hard time deciding to pick witch version of the MPS4S to purchase. Are the OE versions that much better than just the regular ones?

Would appreciate any opinion from owners who have used both and could tell a difference.

also would be persuaded to get Continentals instead

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[RNM]

After trying out continental ECS02, I can never go back to Michelin PS4's and yes, I will die on this hill.

 

[Brisvegas]

Another Mich / Cont fanboi thread , been done to death in here 100 times already ....

I am putting non Cont / Mich tyres on my car next fwiw but i seek a diff experience . If you take 5-6 years to wear out your tyres go buy some actual sticky tyres so you dont drive around on hockey pucks for 3-4 years

 

[2015 Silver GT]

“Which” not “witch”

 

[Ratpack]

Most likely you will feel no difference in the tires. Usually a tire is OE because of a tighter tolerance in the build of the tire, not necessarily the performance. This impacts parameters that the average person will not notice. These parameters are measured with micrometers and highly sensitive sensors.

 

[MachNroll]

Currently in the market for new tires, but I am having a hard time deciding to pick witch version of the MPS4S to purchase. Are the OE versions that much better than just the regular ones?

Would appreciate any opinion from owners who have used both and could tell a difference.

also would be persuaded to get Continentals instead

Conti's will look just a tad bit smaller... ask me how I know. The Conti's were good tires but it bugged me that there was a slight size difference.. I recall there being a thread or two on here somewhere about this topic.

 

[HoldenSSVandGT350]

Most likely you will feel no difference in the tires. Usually a tire is OE because of a tighter tolerance in the build of the tire, not necessarily the performance. This impacts parameters that the average person will not notice. These parameters are measured with micrometers and highly sensitive sensors.

I’ve had both on my SS sedan that I regularly “exercise” on some good roads. They are very comparable except in 2 specific areas:

Wet: The EC Sport and Sport 02s are slightly more resistant to hydroplaning, and, have better longitudinal and lateral grip as well.

Cold: obviously max perf summer tires aren’t made with cold in mind. However, the ECs are better below 45F and it’s very noticeable. My best ever Dragy 0-60s in the SS were on ECs in temps of 39-42F. 0-30 in 1.9 on regular asphalt road. Pilot SS, PS4S and Bridgestone S-04s could never beat a 2.0 on same road and struggle to even do a 2.1 below 45-50F.

The icing on the cake is both have the same 30K mileage warranty if you run a square set, but, the Continentals will save you a couple hundred $$ total.

 

[Ratpack]

I’ve had both on my SS sedan that I regularly “exercise” on some good roads. They are very comparable except in 2 specific areas:

Wet: The EC Sport and Sport 02s are slightly more resistant to hydroplaning, and, have better longitudinal and lateral grip as well.

Cold: obviously max perf summer tires aren’t made with cold in mind. However, the ECs are better below 45F and it’s very noticeable. My best ever Dragy 0-60s in the SS were on ECs in temps of 39-42F. 0-30 in 1.9 on regular asphalt road. Pilot SS, PS4S and Bridgestone S-04s could never beat a 2.0 on same road and struggle to even do a 2.1 below 45-50F.

The icing on the cake is both have the same 30K mileage warranty if you run a square set, but, the Continentals will save you a couple hundred $$ total.

I was referring to the same tire, one being OE and the other a regular RT. That was what the OP had asked about. Can't speak to the different brands as I only run Michelin.

 

[HoldenSSVandGT350]

Another Mich / Cont fanboi thread , been done to death in here 100 times already ....

I am putting non Cont / Mich tyres on my car next fwiw but i seek a diff experience . If you take 5-6 years to wear out your tyres go buy some actual sticky tyres so you dont drive around on hockey pucks for 3-4 years

I currently have ‘22 date coded EC Sport02s on my SS sedan and still get 1.9 0-30s and crest 1G lateral on the HUD when acting a fool on some
Local hwy u-arounds I attack regularly. But, they’re garage kept and not subjected to harsh winters either.

 

[Bullitt_Will]

The price difference between the OE and non OE MPS4S are huge.

For example:

Costco sells the MPS4S with non OE front tires, but comes with OE rear tires.

While Discount Tire sells three versions
-Front non OE with OE rears
-Front OE with non OE rears
-or both OE

Does it really matter which of the wheels is OE or not?

 

[robvas]

I would want to see the specs for both tires, make sure the tread depth, treadwear ratings, etc was the same. OE comes down to a price so I would assume they aren't as good as the regular Michelins

 

[HoldenSSVandGT350]

The price difference between the OE and non OE MPS4S are huge.

For example:

Costco sells the MPS4S with non OE front tires, but comes with OE rear tires.

While Discount Tire sells three versions
-Front non OE with OE rears
-Front OE with non OE rears
-or both OE

Does it really matter which of the wheels is OE or not?

I’d say they’re all PS4S and if you want to know for certain call Tire Rack and speak with a tech rep., they’re helpful and generally knowledgeable. They will have data sheets on the specific FP spec differences vs the off the shelf PS4S.

That said, in a recent Tire Rack UHP/Max summer tire test the PS4S in BMW OEM spec outperformed the off the shelf PS4 by a decent margin. But, it was also a bit less refined on road if I recall. Either way they’re great tires, just more costly one way lol.

 

[MAGS1]

There’s probably some compound tweaks in the OE models vs the standard Michelin Performance model. Is it noticeable? Maybe, maybe not. The OE models were designed with a specific car (or cars) and its performance capabilities in mind. For example, the OE PS4S for the GT500 probably had a compound tweak to get a little more grip given it’s a 760hp car. That compound is then specific to the Ford OE model, another manufacturer like BMW or Ferrari can’t use it. That’s really the difference, the proprietary compound. No matter how big or small a change was made.

 

[RTFM]

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The icing on the cake is both have the same 30K mileage warranty if you run a square set

The MSP4S OE that I got with my base Mach 1 don’t feel that durable. I am at 10k of road use and am already slipping a bit more than I would like while turning and accelerating. Granted, it is not a square set and I could never rotate them since they are directional. Makes me want to choose a more durable compound next, so likely not OE.

 

[robvas]

For example, the OE PS4S for the GT500 probably had a compound tweak to get a little more grip given it’s a 760hp car.

As bad as that car launches, on the stock tires, I doubt it. Plus, the GT500 had the Sport cup 2 tire option for the ultimate in traction.

Gotta remember things like top speed and the cars weight come into it as well.

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