GT350 Torque Management Stock Tune

[LetsFnGo_GT350]

QQ: Any tuners or someone with experience data logging know if the stock calibration includes torque management when shifting?

Just to be clear, I am not talking about traction control or advance track.

Ford typically uses torque management during various conditions to help drive ability, ease the stress on different drive train components etc.

Usually it shows up most often as the ECU pulling timing (or boost in boosted application) specifically during shifting.

The reason I am asking is during spirited driving and I’m shifting below say 5K and hammering it, feels like the engine is pulling timing, even with traction control and advance track turned off.

However at full tilt shifting above 7K it will certainly grab and spin the tires going into 2nd and 3rd.

2018 GT350 14K Miles

Thanks!!!

Sponsored

 

[Timbuck]

Disconnect the dyno plug then take it for a spirited drive. Its the only way to 100% prove the Nannie’s are not playing in the background.
It would be interesting to test it On yours and see how much of a difference it makes.

 

[LetsFnGo_GT350]

Disconnect the dyno plug then take it for a spirited drive. Its the only way to 100% prove the Nannie’s are not playing in the background.
It would be interesting to test it On yours and see how much of a difference it makes.

Good call.. I’ll search for which fuse to pull to test it. Unless on this platform it’s not a fuse but a specific sensor?

 

[Timbuck]

Its the plug behind head light. Easy to find It’s on all mustangs.

Lame video but it a good reference point.

 

[NightmareMoon]

If you have traction control and advance track turned off, pulling the dyno plug wont do anything. Its just a way to confirm that you have those turned off, but if you are using the buttons correctly there will be zero change.

Below 3500-4k, torque and Voodoo dont even belong in the same sentance. Its barely starting to wake up around then. If you want to accelerate harder at those speeds, downshift.

4k is closer to idle than to redline on a Voodoo. At 5k it should have some ok torque.

 

[LetsFnGo_GT350]

If you have traction control and advance track turned off, pulling the dyno plug wont do anything. Its just a way to confirm that you have those turned off, but if you are using the buttons correctly there will be zero change.

Below 3500-4k, torque and Voodoo dont even belong in the same sentance. Its barely starting to wake up around then. If you want to accelerate harder at those speeds, downshift.

4k is closer to idle than to redline on a Voodoo. At 5k it should have some ok torque.

I don’t disagree, it doesn’t really come alive until after 4K rpms which is fine. Just was looking to confirm with the TC/AT off if the ECU was still implementing torque management at shifts.

 

[NightmareMoon]

I don’t disagree, it doesn’t really come alive until after 4K rpms which is fine. Just was looking to confirm with the TC/AT off if the ECU was still implementing torque management at shifts.

Theres nothing I’m aware of on a manual car.

 

[JAJ]

QQ: Any tuners or someone with experience data logging know if the stock calibration includes torque management when shifting?

Just to be clear, I am not talking about traction control or advance track.

Ford typically uses torque management during various conditions to help drive ability, ease the stress on different drive train components etc.

Usually it shows up most often as the ECU pulling timing (or boost in boosted application) specifically during shifting.

The reason I am asking is during spirited driving and I’m shifting below say 5K and hammering it, feels like the engine is pulling timing, even with traction control and advance track turned off.

However at full tilt shifting above 7K it will certainly grab and spin the tires going into 2nd and 3rd.

2018 GT350 14K Miles

Thanks!!!

I finally found a way to get my SCT Advantage III running again and looked in the tables for the 2016 GT350 factory tune. YES, there is clutch protection torque limiting in the factory tune.

 

[LetsFnGo_GT350]

I finally found a way to get my SCT Advantage III running again and looked in the tables for the 2016 GT350 factory tune. YES, there is clutch protection torque limiting in the factory tune.

Thank you!!!! This is what I suspecting. Thanks for confirming, I’m curious if tuners pull some of that back, which would make the car feel more alive in general.

 

[Timbuck]

Turning off traction control and advanced track is NOT the same as pulling the dyno plug.
The stability systems are off to a point. but working in the background and if shit get a bit out of hand they will Activate. Try drifting with high wheel speed and some angle , it cuts in all the time. pain In the ass sometimes , and does shit when you don’t want it to.

 

[JAJ]

Thank you!!!! This is what I suspecting. Thanks for confirming, I’m curious if tuners pull some of that back, which would make the car feel more alive in general.

I have a tune that I downloaded from SCT that's marked "BASE w-torque adj" (as opposed to "BASE" alone) and it has the clutch protection table filled with all the same values (a big number). The "BASE" factory table has a ramped profile in that table. So, yes, it can be tuned out by a tuner.

In case you're wondering, I had SCT Advantage "left over" from an earlier Mustang, and so, while I have the tools to tune the GT350, I never touched mine - I like it as-is.

Also, this particular table has nothing to do with stability control or the dyno plug. It's in the ECU itself and it's purely there to keep the clutch from getting smoked. Stability control and whatnot are in other modules (PSCM, BCM, IPC, RCM, ABS) and they work together to figure out torque reduction commands to send to the ECU when the car gets out of whack.

Sponsored