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Hello; I do assume people ought to know peanuts are in peanut butter. I do get your point but just barely. I recall years ago when I had a bicycle magazine subscription reading of a bike accident. A guy was riding around at night on a bicycle and got hit by a car. He did not have any lights on his self nor on the bicycle. No reflective clothes nor any such on the bicycle. Just dark street clothes. He sued and got a settlement.
Unfortunately we live in a litigious society, so it’s CYA for the obvious stuff. The fact that McDonalds got sued because some dummy put hot coffee in between their legs, burned themselves and then sued because McDonalds didn’t state it was hot tells me either 1) some people really are that dumb; or 2) people are looking for every opportunity to sue a big corporation and get a big payday.
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I'll take number one for 1000 Alex.
 

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I think this is also being done in the US. Aren't food prices high enough?
Hello; yes food is high enough already. Just another sacrifice the powers that be (for now) are willing for the rest of us to make.
 

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More stupid, lets take good farm land and turn it into a solar farm.
Incredibly stupid BUT no more so than taking good farmland and planting corn to make ethanol for vehicle fuel instead of growing whatever tasty animals eat. I'm more worried about bacon shortages than climate change.
 

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But it is easy to change crops, not so easy to get rid of the solar panels.
 

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I'm more worried about bacon shortages than climate change.
Truer words have never been said. Everyone knows that climate change is a hoax. Also, I heard on my social media app that all these hurricanes, wildfires, and droughts were manufactured by the Deep State CIA and FBI. These entities all want to take away our right to own fast cars. They have no concern for our children or our children's children and want to take away our right to burn fossil fuels. I would think you would all agree that the future of this Earth is really not important only our own desire to burn baby burn. Oh my!!!! My obsessive/compulsive alter ego must have kicked in this morning. Please remove my tongue from cheek.
 

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It is getting warmer, it is a lot easier to grow crops when it is warm out.

In the Jurassic period it was a lot warmer, Co2 was around the 5K mark, and O2 was a lot higher because the plants LOVE Co2 and give back O2.

We had abundant life many huge dinosaurs that could not survive today.

Worst case is some uber rich people will have to move further inland.
 

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Worst case is some uber rich people will have to move further inland.
Think of all those Americans who worked hard their whole life. Many, many saved and were able to afford what they hoped would be a fruitful retirement in Florida or even a picturesque inland town like Ashville. Y'all know what happened this summer don't ya? Was it just Mother Nature taking its natural course? I've heard it said this. However, Mother Nature's changes occurred over thousands of years. Changes since the mid 1800s, less than 200 years, can be attributed to the Industrial Revolution, an era of great innovation by human beings. Now we must use this ability to hold back the causes of this rapid climate change before our children and their children perish from this earth.
 

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Microwaves can cook food faster than an oven, but you wont see master chefs using a microwave. lol
 

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Truer words have never been said. Everyone knows that climate change is a hoax. Also, I heard on my social media app that all these hurricanes, wildfires, and droughts were manufactured by the Deep State CIA and FBI. These entities all want to take away our right to own fast cars. They have no concern for our children or our children's children and want to take away our right to burn fossil fuels. I would think you would all agree that the future of this Earth is really not important only our own desire to burn baby burn. Oh my!!!! My obsessive/compulsive alter ego must have kicked in this morning. Please remove my tongue from cheek.
Hello; sarcasm. How cute. Large natural events are generally outside the control of humans. Humans can affect environments at some scales. Pollution, pesticides and habitat destruction can be human scale events.
That the climate does change is not the issue at hand. It is how much and if human activities contribute to overall climate change. Put another way the climate will change as it has long before human populations came along and grew to number in several billions. I do not doubt our massive numbers are affecting the planet, just am not convinced we are driving the climate at a significant scale.

These entities all want to take away our right to own fast cars. They have no concern for our children or our children's children and want to take away our right to burn fossil fuels.
Hello; Oh, that driving fast cars was the only thing fossil fuels are good for. Unfortunately lives, livelihoods and lifestyles in the present are at stake. Many and perhaps even most would give up "fast cars" to save the planet. But the current green energy & EV battle is about everyday life. My small car which gets around 35 mpg and runs cleaner than past cars is the greater sort of vehicle to be banned. My ability to be warm during winter is at stake. I can stand to sweat during summer and did live without AC until well into my 30's. It is not just uncaring hot rodders being forced to change. Our lives are at stake when these green and EV replacements are not up to the task.
Climate change fear is one of the sticks being used as a propaganda for control over our lives.
 

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Think of all those Americans who worked hard their whole life. Many, many saved and were able to afford what they hoped would be a fruitful retirement in Florida or even a picturesque inland town like Ashville. Y'all know what happened this summer don't ya?
Look at climate charts and you will see the Earth has warmed just as fast in the past as it is now.

Heating and cooling is a natural cycle and there is nothing we can do about it
 

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Think of all those Americans who worked hard their whole life. Many, many saved and were able to afford what they hoped would be a fruitful retirement in Florida or even a picturesque inland town like Ashville. Y'all know what happened this summer don't ya?
Hello; Nice try. Thing is it is my understanding when looked at using historical records the numbers and severity of storms are not increasing overall. Just this last summer my area had a string of 90 + degree days which approached the record. Thing is that record string of hot days was set back in the 1930's.
Modern storm do appear to impact lots of people. part of that is simply because of overpopulation and subsequent crowding into less desirable places. I have spent most of my 77 years in the hills of southeast KY. I watched folks move onto flood plains along the streams and rivers because the prime spots were already filled. In Asheville from what i have seen on local news the worst flooding was along the river. Same thing happened in Harlan County KY back in 1977. I was living high on a ridge and did not get flooded. Folks along the flood planes of forks feeding the Cumberland River got hit hard.

Same sort of thing with tornadoes. In the past they hit unpopulated areas and more rarely population centers. Now there are people most everywhere.
 

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Think of all those Americans who worked hard their whole life. Many, many saved and were able to afford what they hoped would be a fruitful retirement in Florida or even a picturesque inland town like Ashville. Y'all know what happened this summer don't ya? Was it just Mother Nature taking its natural course? I've heard it said this. However, Mother Nature's changes occurred over thousands of years. Changes since the mid 1800s, less than 200 years, can be attributed to the Industrial Revolution, an era of great innovation by human beings. Now we must use this ability to hold back the causes of this rapid climate change before our children and their children perish from this earth.
When fewer people lived in those areas, the level of loss was far less. No believable scientific or government body has confirmed that climate change is responsible for more or more intense hurricanes. To think that the mass scale of climate change that occurs can be slowed by humans does not seem credible.
No, changes in the last 200 years can not be attributed to the Industrial Revolution. You mean the same Revolution that sparked fears of a new ice age in the 1970s? Always retain a healthy and reasonable dose of skepticism, especially when someone benefits from an underlying agenda but excludes themselves from its consequences.
 

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You mean the same Revolution that sparked fears of a new ice age in the 1970s?
Hello; Remember it well. Especially winters around 1977. In 1977 in Harlan County we had over three weeks when the temps never got above freezing. Was worse further north.
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