Thinking about trading for a Mach1? Maybe?

[analogman]

FWIW I went though a similar process as you with my 2015 GT, thinking of going for a Mach I, for similar reasons as you (though my GT is already a manual).

I decided not to do it. For me it would have been another $25-$30k on top of my car. I like the Mach I very much, but for street driving it just didn’t feel all that different. It’s still fundamentally the same car, with some nice but relatively smaller add-ons.

The Tremec trans in the Mach I was a big draw for me. But I put a Blowfish Racing shifter bracket in my car, combined with switching out the trans fluid to BG Synchro Shift II, made a huge difference. Shifts are so much smoother now. It’s not a Tremec, but in street driving feels like a completely different transmission. It’s now a joy to row through the gears.

For me a bigger consideration would be the manual transmission. If you like driving a stick, then do it. Forget about the ‘numbers’ of an automatic. On the street you’re not going to be timing 1/4 mile runs at every light. A GT with a stick and PP (which to the seat of my pants does make a big difference) could be a whole different experience compared with your current car.

There’s no right or wrong. It’s just what you like, and how much you’re comfortable spending.

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[chuckhammer]

About a year ago I did the Bilstein B6 dampers, linear 200/800 springs, IRS lockout/bracing, and diff bushings. Also added the all the front chassis bracing since I don't have a PP car. Completely transformed how the car feels and handles. Under $2k in parts.

As for the Mach 1 upgrade, I am interested in HPDE track days and could make use of the engine and diff oil coolers on that car. Ditto the TR-3160 trans. The unique/more collectible nature of it over my GT isn't particularly important to me but a nice bonus. Different people have different priorities. Only you can decide if it's worthwhile. I would say it's evident that you miss driving a manual so maybe that's reason enough.

 

[V8Platty]

I'll add to what has already been said.

Having had just about every generation V8 Mustang as a daily driver, except the hideous Mustang II generation, I was blown away with my fully loaded 2018 V8 GT PP1 6-sp. I loved the prior models, but this was head and shoulders above the past models with it's Magnaride suspension and seriously good engine. The S550 was clearly a better all around handling and performing generation than any prior. And cooled seats too... In a Mustang!

I loved that car and was heartbroken when an older driver way behind me hit the gas instead of the brakes and drove into my stopped car at over 60 MPH (we were stopped on the highway). Amazingly, not a scratch on me or my wife, and the car actually started and could still drive under its own power, but it was totaled.

Fast forward to last November where I lucked out finding a FJG fully optioned '21 Mach 1 HP 6-sp without Recaros. Amazingly only 1,600 miles and like new, with the CUP2s barely broken in, and priced to sell. I grabbed it the day I went to look at it.

Now to answer your question, this car is a definite step up from my beloved 2018 GT. As competent as the 2018 was, the Mach 1 is better in every performance metric you might have. And I mean "put a sh.t eating grin on your face continuously" better. And don't even consider the automatic unless you plan on racing the car a lot and can justify any performance benefit it might provide against the fact you just gave away the biggest driving please the Mach 1 offers - mainly its Tremec. I have the 10-sp Automatic in my 2020 F150, and have to rank it as the crappiest transmission I've ever been stuck using. "Bag of rocks" and "My tractor with a busted clutch shifts smoother" were two quotes I saw that I'd agree with. Granted the Mustang tuning is a bit better (I did drive one), but I would never buy a Mustang with that transmission in it.

So, if you are thinking of doing it, do it. Not doing so will be a regret you carry for a long time. Speaking from someone who passed up a '70 Boss 302 , '69 Boss 429, and (crying as I write this) a '65 Shelby GT350, all priced to sell but outside of my price range unless I stretched a bit at the time (late 70's), but now almost unattainable today.

And if you get a Mach 1, spend just a little more for the Steeda "Stop the Hop" parts. They make an already superb car stellar by addressing the only little issue I ever had with the car when driven really hard.

 

[Crew4991]

You aren’t “missing out” per say but I would definitely recommend getting the Mach 1 that you want. Your GT PP is already pretty close to what a Mach 1 offers but there is no arguing that a Mach will offer you even more. They are great vehicles and depreciation is just starting to kick in for them so look around for a good used one that has the options you want.

You have a solid 5+ years to find a good one while they are still new-ish. At the 10+ year old mark it will probably be harder to find a good one with the options you want as the tuner boys will have started to molest them with shitty ass tunes and tasteless mods along with wrapping them around trees, light poles, crowds, ect. Good luck with your search! You won’t regret the upgrade.

 

[Gargoyle]

Mach 1 is slower then a GT 10R80 in a drag. So it’s not an upgrade in speed in any way. Also if you drive around town and do spirted driving and you lose to a GT that’s a 20k lesson. Also, the general population does not know the difference between a Mach 1 and a GT so seriously no one is going to give you big kudos. Now if you track the car and your a corner carver not a drag racer then Mach 1. Now if it’s because you just want a manual how on earth you can justify 20k more for it I’m not sure especially in traffic. This is my opinion as a 2020 Mustang GT PP1 owner who only drove manuals also.

 

[AZ_Ryan]

I traded my 2015 GT premium auto for a M1 manual.

I miss the GT a little as it was a great drivers car around town and a real head turner in Ruby red with 20" wheels.

But the Tremec, Magneride, and active exhaust on the Mach 1 puts a s**t eating grin on my face every time I punch it. And I get compliments ALL THE TIME from people. For my money the M1 is also the best looking S550 made.

So if you really want a manual, you will LOVE the Tremec. Good manuals are a dying breed and may not be around in a few years.You just need to make peace with the price. YOLO.

...also I drove an A10 M1 and didn't care for it. To me it wasn't much of an upgrade over the GT. And you want no part of an MT88 on a GT. Just my 2 cents.

 

[FUN2RIDEFAST]

Currently have a 2020 GT PP1 Premium. I initially bought it to hit a specific price point to have a fun car around. I honestly never intended to fall in love with the car and figured I'd buy, play, sell. But I slipped and now I love the car, a little over a year later and I still have no intention of sending it down the road.

Now that I'm contemplating keeping it long term the blemishes of the car and the FOMO of not getting something more special like a Mach1 or even a manual is starting to haunt me. The auto is quicker in every way, but from someone who has driven manuals their entire life I feel a bit disconnected.

Thinking if I grab a Mach1 of similar year and mileage to my car I would be paying about 10-15k to upgrade. Is the difference in the cars worth the premium?

I also thought about a lateral side grade and just getting a manual GT just to get at least a manual, but the MT-82 makes me concerned, not sure if it's overblown or not. But the trouble of a trade for such a small side grade seem like a lot of effort for maybe a downgrade.

Anyone familiar with both vehicles or have made this move? Is it worth the differences?

If having a manual is important to you why not get a GT Performance Pack in a lateral move and put the saved money into making it your's? First thing I did on my 2017 GT PP was install a Barton shifter and it made a world of difference. Since them it's been suspension, supercharger, axles and, well you get the picture. I don't drag race at the strip or do track days buy every time my butt is behind the wheel I'm loving it. Make it yours! Mine is unique to me.

 

[cerbomark]

there s a few PP2 for sale on here with low mileage. If your car is in good shape you can sell it and step to the pp2. It s close to the M1 (especially if you don t track often or at all). Save yourself $10K.

 

[MachNroll]

Currently have a 2020 GT PP1 Premium. I initially bought it to hit a specific price point to have a fun car around. I honestly never intended to fall in love with the car and figured I'd buy, play, sell. But I slipped and now I love the car, a little over a year later and I still have no intention of sending it down the road.

Now that I'm contemplating keeping it long term the blemishes of the car and the FOMO of not getting something more special like a Mach1 or even a manual is starting to haunt me. The auto is quicker in every way, but from someone who has driven manuals their entire life I feel a bit disconnected.

Thinking if I grab a Mach1 of similar year and mileage to my car I would be paying about 10-15k to upgrade. Is the difference in the cars worth the premium?

I also thought about a lateral side grade and just getting a manual GT just to get at least a manual, but the MT-82 makes me concerned, not sure if it's overblown or not. But the trouble of a trade for such a small side grade seem like a lot of effort for maybe a downgrade.

Anyone familiar with both vehicles or have made this move? Is it worth the differences?

'22 M1 HP owner here. As you've seen, there has been a variety of responses to your post to give you info to help you make a decision. So, I'll just add to it by saying that I have owned an '18 PP1, '20 Charger Scat Pack, and now my '22 M1 HP with the A10. This car (for me) is by far the most fun by a mile. Yes, it's more money compared to what one could do with after-market upgrades on a GT. But, as someone who doesn't want to deal with after-market, the M1 HP is a great car for me.

Another thing; while the general public doesn't know or care about a M1, I have found that many people do as I regularly get compliments, conversations at the gas pumps, conversations at red lights, thumbs up cruisin down the road, people yelling "yeah, Mach1," requests for photos of my car. I've even had kids (future Mustang owners???) who hear me coming down the street and they video record my car as I drive by. I've never had this response before. It's not why I own the car, but it is cool that some people are enthusiastic about it. Now, the "downside" is that I get some dirty looks from Tesla owners, people sitting in traffic with small dogs on their lap, and family van drivers who have those ridiculous family stick figure images on the rear window.

Go on CARFAX, search for some M1's at dealerships in your area and go test drive both the "base" and M1 HP's. See if its worth it to you.

 

[ThatSilverCar]

there s a few PP2 for sale on here with low mileage. If your car is in good shape you can sell it and step to the pp2. It s close to the M1 (especially if you don t track often or at all). Save yourself $10K.

This isn't a terrible idea. Definitely need to drive a mt-82 GT to make my own conclusions. There is a mach1 pretty close to me at a dealer. Gonna try and drive that maybe this week/end if it's still there. Give me a feel of both manuals hopefully.

 

[cerbomark]

if you are looking at a M1 with no handling package then your gonna like a pp2 better.

 

[RMoeslein]

Currently have a 2020 GT PP1 Premium. I initially bought it to hit a specific price point to have a fun car around. I honestly never intended to fall in love with the car and figured I'd buy, play, sell. But I slipped and now I love the car, a little over a year later and I still have no intention of sending it down the road.

Now that I'm contemplating keeping it long term the blemishes of the car and the FOMO of not getting something more special like a Mach1 or even a manual is starting to haunt me. The auto is quicker in every way, but from someone who has driven manuals their entire life I feel a bit disconnected.

Thinking if I grab a Mach1 of similar year and mileage to my car I would be paying about 10-15k to upgrade. Is the difference in the cars worth the premium?

I also thought about a lateral side grade and just getting a manual GT just to get at least a manual, but the MT-82 makes me concerned, not sure if it's overblown or not. But the trouble of a trade for such a small side grade seem like a lot of effort for maybe a downgrade.

Anyone familiar with both vehicles or have made this move? Is it worth the differences?

I went from a kona blue 2019 PP2 manual gt, to a 2022 grabber blue mach1 manual. No comparison, do the upgrade!!

 

[ThatSilverCar]

if you are looking at a M1 with no handling package then your gonna like a pp2 better.

What's the difference? I know there are adjustable camber plates, spoiler, wheels, front splitter, and fender flare extensions. But isn't everything else mostly the same? To be clear I prefer thr HP but wasn't filtering them out.

 

[Dennis Tierney]

Get a 2021 performance pack after that year horse power went down
put on pp2 chin spoiler
you won’t really no the difference if you get Magna ride

ride
the only other thing I put on was ford racing shift knob
car came with leather recaro seats in the premium package also the electronic panel for RPM

 

[cerbomark]

What's the difference? I know there are adjustable camber plates, spoiler, wheels, front splitter, and fender flare extensions. But isn't everything else mostly the same? To be clear I prefer thr HP but wasn't filtering them out.

M1 /. the HP vs non HP, HP is about an inch lower, larger wheels (gt350 size wheels I believe) , maybe magnaride tuned a little different. But if you pp2 you ll get the lower car, double front spoiler, the larger gt350 size wheels. No Trmec trans but the mt82 feels fine. I had both cars. Nothing wrong with a non HP M1 but my point is with some nice pp2 you ll get more for the money.(or I meant it will save some money, maybe a better overall value?). Less pp2 cars made than M1s.
no rear diff coolers on the pp2, both M1 s have the cooler. Not an issue unless you do some heavy tracking. Best if you drive them all and decide.

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