GM is pulling back on EVs

[Burkey]

Well let's say 11 or 12 years of medical school including residency along with years of practice, I think that qualifies her as an expert.

There are doctors with that level of experience who deny that HIV exists.
Expertise isn’t the metric. Evidence is the metric.
What specific test/s did she perform to establish her specific level of immunity? How did she establish how long her immunity would last? And finally, how did she plan to bolster her immunity once it began to wane?

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[Burkey]

You are a demented individual. I’m so glad you’re not from the US. We wouldn’t tolerate your beliefs over here.

We wouldn’t tolerate you here either, so it’s probably a good thing that we live where we live.

 

[Burkey]

The pro-EV side also doesn’t tell the whole truth

Wait…what?
I thought you were one of the EV champions….. /s

 

[K4fxd]

A new term "peak green" Looks like Europe is waking up to reality.
I sure hope so maybe it's not too late to keep our lifestyles.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/europe-beginning-turn-against-prophets-200000991.html

Now, the bill is beginning to land – and reality beginning to bite. Dutch farmers recently drove tractors into The Hague to protest against its green diktats. In Germany, where the war in Ukraine has brought a new energy realpolitik, wind turbines are being dismantled to make way for an expanded coal mine. Sweden’s 27-year-old environment minister has been quietly diluting the green laws she inherited. Emmanuel Macron – famously chastened by the gilets jaunes – last week called on the EU to stop its barrage of green legislation, saying that enough is enough. We might just have passed Peak Green.

 

[sk47]

A new term "peak green" Looks like Europe is waking up to reality.
I sure hope so maybe it's not too late to keep our lifestyles.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/europe-beginning-turn-against-prophets-200000991.html

Now, the bill is beginning to land – and reality beginning to bite. Dutch farmers recently drove tractors into The Hague to protest against its green diktats. In Germany, where the war in Ukraine has brought a new energy realpolitik, wind turbines are being dismantled to make way for an expanded coal mine. Sweden’s 27-year-old environment minister has been quietly diluting the green laws she inherited. Emmanuel Macron – famously chastened by the gilets jaunes – last week called on the EU to stop its barrage of green legislation, saying that enough is enough. We might just have passed Peak Green.

Hello; I especially liked the comment from M. I also hope there is a time of "peak green". I can hardly wait for Burkey's interpretation.

 

[sk47]

There are doctors with that level of experience who deny that HIV exists.
Expertise isn’t the metric. Evidence is the metric.
What specific test/s did she perform to establish her specific level of immunity? How did she establish how long her immunity would last? And finally, how did she plan to bolster her immunity once it began to wane?

I’d describe my position as adamant, but we’re splitting hairs. I also think that the government is right to demand a range of vaccinations for those working in aged care. I’m not “gleeful” when someone is refused a job on the basis that they refuse to get those vaccinations. Reality is reality.
Yes, and for hundreds of thousands of years, lots and lots of people died before they could reach immunity. Fantastic. We created vaccinations in an effort to reduce the suffering.
You accuse others of being wordsmiths and then you deliver this….
Yes, millions got the virus and recovered. About 1 million US citizens died in the process.
Ok, so at what point does their natural immunity wane? How do they go about boosting that immunity? Do they need to go and get reinfected? How does a government go about making sure that these people have the required level of immunity? These are questions that need answering or I’m not continuing this conversation.
It’s easy to see the holes in your ideas if you actually think about the practical implications.

Hello; I started to comment on all this BS but the last bit stopped me. I will not answer so please go away.

 

[K4fxd]

Expertise isn’t the metric. Evidence is the metric.

Tell that to Fauci.

Yes the evidence is in, the experimental vaccines did not work as planned, or did they? (I'll toss some tin foil hat shit here)

Nor did the cloth masks everyone wore.


It has been proven that immunity from getting the virus is better than the experimental jabs.

 

[sk47]

Tell that to Fauci.

Yes the evidence is in, the experimental vaccines did not work as planned, or did they? (I'll toss some tin foil hat shit here)

Nor did the cloth masks everyone wore.


It has been proven that immunity from getting the virus is better than the experimental jabs.

Hello; I have been thinking about the vaccines of Covid and the way things played out. The easy part of why the rhetoric and vaccine mandates continued for so long is the folks involved were making profits from taxpayer monies. Something like $15 an injection among lots of other taxpayer monies for other things. The push stopped a while back when the government stopped paying for the shots. This is not the part i am thinking about.

The mRNA technology was a very promising new way to take advantage of somewhat recent discoveries and techniques surrounding DNA & RNA. They indeed could make a brand new vaccine in record time compared to traditional ways to make vaccines. This new medical tech was thought to be a game changer and my take is Covid came along giving it a chance to prove itself in dramatic fashion. Try to not get me wrong. I do think the new tech has the potential to be a game changer if they can work the kinks out.
I do not know if they were simply overconfident and took a chance. The working theories, as presented during Covid, did sound good. It is a real shame the tech did not live up to the expectations. Hard to know how much damage was done.

Could be mRNA medical tech can prove to be useful. It will need to be much more thoroughly tested from now on.

 

[Burkey]

It has been proven that immunity from getting the virus is better than the experimental jabs.

So my question is this.
With all of these people deciding that they would prefer natural immunity, how does a government go about staffing hospitals? Does the government allow them to go and chase that natural immunity but deny them treatment for Covid19 if they require it, or, do the natural immunity crowd get to fill beds that are needed by other people, for other things?

Do you remember when Italy (for example) was triaging patients for lack of hospital beds? I do.

 

[Burkey]

Hello; I especially liked the comment from M. I also hope there is a time of "peak green". I can hardly wait for Burkey's interpretation.

I have a better offer. Read it again yourself with your sceptics hat on. You should easily be able to identify the issues that I identified and report back with some obvious examples. Pretty easy to do.

 

[Vlad Soare]

With all of these people deciding that they would prefer natural immunity, how does a government go about staffing hospitals?

Easy. Covid test every morning. If it's negative, you're good to go. If it's positive, go home and come back in two weeks.

Why a vaccine (which doesn't guarantee you won't catch the disease anyway) should be a condition to come to work is baffling to say the least. And the disgusting way in which they used the vaccine as a political weapon, for demonizing everybody who dared oppose the official doctrine (we've seen this in your own country as well), was downright repulsive. Things that I thought could only happen in North Korea were happening in countries I used to look up to. And in mine, sadly. And even worse than that was that smart, educated people, who should know better, were applauding it. Just the remembrance of it makes me want to puke.

But we're off-topic. I suggest we go back to GM and EVs before we get shut down for politics.

 

[Burkey]

Easy. Covid test every morning. If it's negative, you're good to go. If it's positive, go home and come back in two weeks.

Why a vaccine (which doesn't guarantee you won't catch the disease anyway) should be a condition to come to work is baffling to say the least. And the disgusting way in which they used the vaccine as a political weapon, for demonizing everybody who dared oppose the official doctrine (we've seen this in your own country as well), was downright repulsive. Things that I thought could only happen in North Korea were happening in countries I used to look up to. And in mine, sadly. And even worse than that was that smart, educated people, who should know better, were applauding it. Just the remembrance of it makes me want to puke.

But we're off-topic. I suggest we go back to GM and EVs before we get shut down for politics.

It seems I didn’t make it clear that I meant staffing the hospital (and providing beds) to carry the extra burden of the unvaccinated patients occupying hospital beds that would be most likely be empty if they’d been vaccinated.

THAF was the point of vaccination and not one person has ever explained to me how the system would work.

 

[Vlad Soare]

It seems I didn’t make it clear that I meant staffing the hospital (and providing beds) to carry the extra burden of the unvaccinated patients occupying hospital beds that would be most likely be empty if they’d been vaccinated.

Yeah, but we weren't talking about unvaccinated patients. We were talking about an unvaccinated doctor getting fired.

 

[Burkey]

Yeah, but we weren't talking about unvaccinated patients. We were talking about an unvaccinated doctor getting fired.

Sort of. The conversation has meandered a little.
As a side note, you’d need to be performing a RAT test daily under your scheme. The last time I did one, I had to do three over the course of a half hour before getting a positive result. If I hadn’t been symptomatic, I’d have regarded the first test as correct.
Given that the RAT doesn’t appear to be all that accurate (perhaps it was my method, although my eyeballs nearly came out), how do we control for false negatives? Then there’s the issue of throwing upward of 10 million tests (apparently there’s 18 million people employed in healthcare in the US) in the bin each and every day in the US alone…for how long? Two years? Three? When do we stop testing?

My wife now works in aged care (recent career change) and she is STILL required to do a daily RAT test, despite being triple vaxxed and recovering from her first bout of covid as we speak. Not sure if that’s government policy or just the policy of this particular provider.

EDIT: Research revealed this to be government policy, not that of the provider.

 

[K4fxd]

It seems I didn’t make it clear that I meant staffing the hospital (and providing beds) to carry the extra burden of the unvaccinated patients occupying hospital beds that would be most likely be empty if they’d been vaccinated.

Except the jab didn't work.

We were talking about an unvaccinated doctor getting fired.

Who had and recovered from Covid. This shouldn't matter but she caught Covid before the jabs were available.

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