Ford track pack sway bar install issues

[Doug T]

Right. However you can clearly see in the photo of them on the bench side by side there is a major difference in the angle of the new sway versus the original. Under load may change the angle of the control arm end link but the sway angle still remains off.

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[LevittownFordParts]

Tried again. Keep getting message undeliverable. So yea, no correspondence whatsoever.

As I said earlier I tried several times and I get a message saying they are not accepting e-mails. I'll try again Monday and see what happens.

Doug, I sent you a PM with installation information but I wanted to get more information about this when you have time.

What method of communication did you use that resulted in an undeliverable message? And where did you see that we are not accepting emails?

Was it both an issue on the following page?

We appreciate the info

- Benny

 

[Doug T]

Yes. On the submit ticket page and Levittown Ford link. And Benny, I do appreciate you reaching out. Thanks, Doug.

 

[Doug T]

I got in touch directly with a Ford performance tech, sent pics, explained what's going on and according to them it's acceptable. I don't like it but I guess I'll put it back in. time will tell. Thanks for everybody's help.

 

[Angrey]

I got in touch directly with a Ford performance tech, sent pics, explained what's going on and according to them it's acceptable. I don't like it but I guess I'll put it back in. time will tell. Thanks for everybody's help.

As in, they know it's fugged up by there's nothing they can do about it acceptable or it's the way it's actually SUPPOSED to be?

I'm having the EXACT same problem and I have the steeda adjustable end links and they look WAY WAY out of sorts.

I think this part is fubar. I'm prolly gonna sell mine and just order a different bar and recommend no one use this product. To say "it's acceptable" by FRPP is bullshit.

 

[Schwerin]

I'm not sure if this is your problem but I ask them about the same kit and they gave the wrong part number kit for my PP2. Maybe your PP1 has some slight difference like my car does. Mine actually takes the one that goes on the GT350.

The Magneride GT350, PP2 and PP1 all use the same Bar design.

 

[LevittownFordParts]

As in, they know it's fugged up by there's nothing they can do about it acceptable or it's the way it's actually SUPPOSED to be?

I'm having the EXACT same problem and I have the steeda adjustable end links and they look WAY WAY out of sorts.

I think this part is fubar. I'm prolly gonna sell mine and just order a different bar and recommend no one use this product. To say "it's acceptable" by FRPP is bullshit.

The suspension needs to supported and at curb height when installing the parts. This is outlined in the instruction manual.

- Benny

 

[Angrey]

The suspension needs to supported and at curb height when installing the parts. This is outlined in the instruction manual.

- Benny

Did that. I adjusted the end links to be factory length, installed them (unloaded) looked jacked up. I loaded the suspension. Looked jacked up. I lengthened the end links, repeat loaded and unloaded. Jacked up. I installed the bar with the factory end links. Jacked up.

We removed the bar, swapped it 6 different times wondering what we're doing wrong. We stared at it. Tried to figure out why it wasn't working...etc...etc.

There is NO WAY YOU CAN INSTALL THIS BAR, LOADED OR OTHERWISE WHERE THE END LINKS DON'T LOOK TOTALLY OUT OF SHAPE.

 

[Schwerin]

I have the bars on my car, i'll try to snap some picks of it from under when I go to the parking lot after work.

Here is a pic from CJ POny of it installed Ford Performance M-FR3A-M8A Mustang Track Handling Suspension Package Assembled Fastback EcoBoost/GT 2015-2021 (cjponyparts.com)

 

[Angrey]

I have the bars on my car, i'll try to snap some picks of it from under when I go to the parking lot after work.

Here is a pic from CJ POny of it installed Ford Performance M-FR3A-M8A Mustang Track Handling Suspension Package Assembled Fastback EcoBoost/GT 2015-2021 (cjponyparts.com)

You can't tell from the photos, but the upper joint on the end link is flexed/angled upward. That's because the ends of the FRPP bar have a cant/angle to them (that's NOT present in the GT350 OEM bar).

I find it very difficult to believe that Ford Engineers (who signed off on the design of the GT, PP GT with magernide, GT350, etc) somehow got it all WRONG (along with Steeda, BMR, virtually every other bar manufacturer) but somehow these savants (whomever made this for FRPP) got it correct.

The joints on the end links are supposed to articulate and move. They shouldn't START OFF in a static condition at a weird angle. And whether you lengthen or shorten it, it's at a weird base angle.

Set aside the fact that the bar is incompatible with the factory bracket/tab (details, but irritating).

It may work perfectly fine, but for anyone with OCD, having the end links look so maxed out already (before any movement) just leaves one thinking it's WRONG.

I've ordered the Steeda adjustable rear sway. I'll try to get some photos of the OEM GT350 bar, the FRPP bar and the Steeda bar all on top of each other so everyone can see what I'm saying. (once the steeda arrives)

 

[LevittownFordParts]

Did that. I adjusted the end links to be factory length, installed them (unloaded) looked jacked up. I loaded the suspension. Looked jacked up. I lengthened the end links, repeat loaded and unloaded. Jacked up. I installed the bar with the factory end links. Jacked up.

We removed the bar, swapped it 6 different times wondering what we're doing wrong. We stared at it. Tried to figure out why it wasn't working...etc...etc.

There is NO WAY YOU CAN INSTALL THIS BAR, LOADED OR OTHERWISE WHERE THE END LINKS DON'T LOOK TOTALLY OUT OF SHAPE.

Did you actually put all 4 wheels on the ground and inspect it? If so can you snap a photo of the links.

-Benny

 

[Schwerin]

Installed by Ford.

 

[Angrey]

Installed by Ford.

And you think that looks right? It looks like the end links are hanging on for dear life. I guess maybe I'm just hung up on the geometry that the oem bar and components have. I understand the joints are supposed to articulate, but it just looks out of sorts. Maybe it's fine, I just don't see how that's intentional and meant to be that way.

 

[kz]

And you think that looks right? It looks like the end links are hanging on for dear life. I guess maybe I'm just hung up on the geometry that the oem bar and components have. I understand the joints are supposed to articulate, but it just looks out of sorts. Maybe it's fine, I just don't see how that's intentional and meant to be that way.

You're overthinking it - they're links - supposed to connect two parts to themselves and try to twist the sway bar. They're not kinematically part of the suspension.

 

[Schwerin]

And you think that looks right? It looks like the end links are hanging on for dear life. I guess maybe I'm just hung up on the geometry that the oem bar and components have. I understand the joints are supposed to articulate, but it just looks out of sorts. Maybe it's fine, I just don't see how that's intentional and meant to be that way.

Do you know how many hundreds/thousands of people are using these bars at the track? Now show me ONE post of a person having issue with them.

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