Anybody buying this media fueled COVID-19 bull schitt?

[Weather Man]

# job 1 control the narrative to prevent pandemonium.
Love him or hate him, Trump appears to have done a stellar job with this. A long time ago I learned a very important lesson that everyone has heard but is largely ignored because of political allegiance. Focus on what people do and why they do it rather than what they say, how they say it, and what others say of it.

That would require lefties to engage brain and they just aren't keen on that, easier to let the MSM tell them what to think.

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[Weather Man]

 

[watisthis]

Stop watching networks that twist truths, tell half truths and leave out facts.

How many Trump quotes and statements you want me to post here? I could literally hit the character limit.

Edit: Also, this is hilarious coming from the guy who said it was the democrats who wanted people to die voting while the republicans blocked mail-in voting in Wisconsin.

The irony is that the SCOTUS voted remotely to tell WI voters that they couldn't vote remotely. Somehow this is a fucking law, what a democracy.

 

[watisthis]

None of you are experts, none of you have the facts. Only the people in the “know” or need to know have the facts. What citizens have are what the media outlets want us to know. You have one big media outlet that leans Republican and then at least 5 big media outlets that are pro Democrat.. Now you may be offering your view but your basing it on whichever media outlet you watch or lean towards, Fact is it’s the media outlets point of view, written and reported the way they want you to receive it, then it is up to you to believe there point of view or not. You can watch 3 different media outlets on the same exact story that will have words twisted, deleted or re-worded to make it sound however they want it to. That’s a fact.

Oh Jesus, cry me a river. Sure, most of us are not experts, however, that does not mean the experts we are quoting and taking scientific data from are not in the know. You seem to think that the overwhelming number of experts, journalists who quote experts, and unequivocally observable covid19 data are all wrong. And for what?

You have the most extreme confirmation bias and you don't even know it. If you want to prove their facts wrong, by all means, go ahead, but don't sit here and go Nah that can't be correct because I don't believe it to be so, the media outlet that gave me no data to fact check told me so. Turns out when the baffling number of experts say the opposite of what you believe perhaps maybe it is you who is wrong.

 

[watisthis]

And people can't see through that??

Do you seriously not understand what "live" means? If CNN was reporting a football game and at halftime, they said the Falcons were winning by a large margin heading into halftime, then all of a sudden an hour later they change their headline to the Patriots win the Superbowl. Are you going to call them fake news? This is essentially what you are doing now.

Is CNN fake news? Yes. They do some very terrible reporting but they also do a good job at other times, no different than Fox News expert I don't believe CNN panders to conspiracy theorists. (I do not watch either, there are plenty of better new sources.)

Moreover, this headline is not the time to call them out on their repeated mistakes. This is just what live reporting looks like. Stop being jump the gun assholes.

 

[kz]

You do realize he said he “wanted” to open the economy up by Easter. Stop twisting the words coming out of the mans mouth. Wanting to and we are doing it mean, two different things.

And you think he didn't because he himself came to the conclusion it is a bad idea ? Why is he creating another task force to re-open while he already has one ? He simply doesn't like what the current one is telling him.

And you are dismissing my questions - which is fine, I did not expect you to be able to answer them. Hard to admit that US is so much worse than other countries while we like to tell ourselves we're the greatest one. Believe me, I wish it was true but reality bites and will continue to do so. I would love to be wrong but 16 million unemployed people in 2 weeks is a fact, not a number manufactured by the media. And it will only grow as many people weren't able to apply for unemployment yet.

So far I see only dismissive responses and lame memes from the weather guy who thinks that somehow has anything to do with election results. It's a simple question aside from political affiliations - why there are so many unemployed people in such a short time while we supposedly had such a strong economy ? Why we are the only ones that end up in such bad spot ?

 

[IPOGT]

And you think he didn't because he himself came to the conclusion it is a bad idea ? Why is he creating another task force to re-open while he already has one ? He simply doesn't like what the current one is telling him.

And you are dismissing my questions - which is fine, I did not expect you to be able to answer them. Hard to admit that US is so much worse than other countries while we like to tell ourselves we're the greatest one. Believe me, I wish it was true but reality bites and will continue to do so. I would love to be wrong but 16 million unemployed people in 2 weeks is a fact, not a number manufactured by the media. And it will only grow as many people weren't able to apply for unemployment yet.

So far I see only dismissive responses and lame memes from the weather guy who thinks that somehow has anything to do with election results. It's a simple question aside from political affiliations - why there are so many unemployed people in such a short time while we supposedly had such a strong economy ?

Why we are the only ones that end up in such bad spot ?

Because WE are a very Large Free country that will not physically quarantine or restrict our citizens by force or overtly place tracking devices on them by the state in order to enforce restrictions on their movements and because our economy is so dependent on foreign trade for manufactured products.
There's plenty more, but that's the major ones.

 

[IPOGT]

How many Trump quotes and statements you want me to post here? I could literally hit the character limit.

Edit: Also, this is hilarious coming from the guy who said it was the democrats who wanted people to die voting while the republicans blocked mail-in voting in Wisconsin.

The irony is that the SCOTUS voted remotely to tell WI voters that they couldn't vote remotely. Somehow this is a fucking law, what a democracy.

Remote voting is a joke. That's why business installed fingerprint readers on time clocks. That's the future of voting remotely or retinal scan.

 

[Shifting_Gears]

Because WE are a very Large Free country that will not physically quarantine or restrict our citizens by force or overtly place tracking devices on them by the state in order to enforce restrictions on their movements and because our economy is so dependent on foreign trade for manufactured products.
There's plenty more, but that's the major ones.

Read this - pretty terrifying if the govt bites.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ws...he-coronavirus-through-your-phone-11586618075

 

[IPOGT]

Good catch. Unless it's voluntary, it will make its way up the court food chain and ultimately, I predict, would get rejected for constitutional reasons
which would then prompt another argument for revision.

 

[IPOGT]

Remote voting is a joke. That's why business installed fingerprint readers on time clocks. That's the future of voting remotely or retinal scan.

You're not going to fool Trump. Being in business he's known about that for years.

 

[watisthis]

Remote voting is a joke. That's why business installed fingerprint readers on time clocks. That's the future of voting remotely or retinal scan.

How is remote voting a joke when it's either that or not being able to vote at all?

 

[watisthis]

You're not going to fool Trump. Being in business he's known about that for years.

This the same Trump who has bankrupted more business ventures than he's succeded in?

 

[Bikeman315]

Remote voting is a joke. That's why business installed fingerprint readers on time clocks. That's the future of voting remotely or retinal scan.

Well your is one of the ones that have it along with a number of other swing states. Why do you think Trump would want to ban it?

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...ail-2020-race-between-biden-and-trump/609799/

Well he has already come out and said it. He would lose! Remote voting has been an essential part of our election process for many years with no issues. It only becomes an issue if it threatens Trump. And, as usual, Trump supporters just believe anything he says.

 

[Bikeman315]

You're not going to fool Trump. Being in business he's known about that for years.

Some of you really need to come up to New York and learn what the worlds #1 con man is all about. And before you say it, I repeat "I am not a Socialist, nor a Democrat. I am not a Liberal. I do not watch CNN and MSNBC religiously. I am a native New Yorker who has worked for companies that did business with DT. I also have family involved in the real estate market in New York and other East Coast cities. And lastly I do not hate him.

Here are some of Trump’s noteworthy business failures. Look them up if you doubt any of them.

1. Trump Airlines
In 1988, Trump took out a $245 million loan to purchase the planes and routes of Eastern Air Shuttle. He slapped a TRUMP decal and some gold bathroom fixtures on the commuter planes that flew between New York, Boston and Washington, D.C., but customers weren’t charmed. Two years after he launched Trump Shuttle, the airline wasn’t making enough money to even cover the $1 million monthly interest payment on his loan. Trump ultimately defaulted, surrendering ownership of the airline to his creditors.

2. Trump beverages
Perhaps you’re aware of Trump Ice — “one of the purest natural spring waters bottled in the world,” according to the Trump’s website. The line of water, which is bottled by a third party, is not a failure; according to his FEC disclosure, Trump made $280,000 off it last year. But Trump’s other forays into the beverage market have been less successful. Undoubtedly intended to play on his Apprentice catchphrase, Trump Fire was trademarked in 2004, but it does not appear to have ever made it to market. Trump trademarked the name Trump Power at the same time. Both drinks were categorized as “non-alcoholic beverages containing fruit juices… namely, carbonated beverages” on their trademark applications. The only trace remaining of either are the trademark applications that were abandoned in 2006. The same goes for Trump’s American Pale Ale, the trademark for which was cancelled in 20073.

3. Trump: The Game
In 1988, Trump teamed up with Milton Bradley to create Trump: The Game. Despite its flashy TV ad, the game sold only 800,000 copies — less than half the 2 million units the company expected to move. When it was discontinued in 1990, Trump chalked the game’s dismal sales up to the fact that it might have been “too complicated.” The failure apparently didn’t deter Hasbro from releasing a re-branded version of the game in 2004 to capitalize on Trump’s Apprentice-related popularity. Trump said he expected the Hasbro version of his game to sell more copies than the original, but it too quickly went out of circulation.

4. Trump casinos
Trump has filed for bankruptcy on his Atlantic City properties alone three times. First was the Trump Taj Mahal in 1991 — which was $3 billion in debt after just one year in operation. He was back in bankruptcy court in 2004, and not just for the Trump Taj Mahal but for the Trump Marina and Trump Plaza casinos, which along with a riverboat casino in Indiana had a debt burden of some $1.8 billion. After the bankruptcy, Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts reorganized as Trump Entertainment Resorts Inc. Four years later, Trump Entertainment Resorts missed an interest payment on a $53.1 million bond; the company declared bankruptcy, and this time Trump stepped down as its chairman.

5. Trump magazine
Trump launched his eponymous magazine in late 2007, reinventing a publication that had previously been called Trump Style and Trump World. His idea was to “[cash] in on the booming advertising market for yachts and other high-end commodities.” The timing, of course, couldn’t have been worse for a magazine, particularly one dependent on luxury advertising. It didn’t survive the financial crisis, folding by 2009.

6. Trump Mortgage
“I think it’s a great time to start a mortgage company,” Trump famously predicted to CNBC in April 2006. “The real-estate market is going to be very strong for a long time to come.” In reality, the market had already begun deflating at that point and would collapse within a matter of months. Unsurprisingly, Trump Mortgage’s business fell far short of its projections, doing less than a third of the $3 billion in business executives predicted it would to do in its first year. At the time, Trump blamed the failure on the executives who run the company. He had tapped E.J. Ridings for the company’s CEO position; the company’s website boasted Ridings as having been a “top executive of one of Wall Street’s most prestigious investment banks,” but Money Magazine later found he had just six months of experience as a stockbroker before he went to work a small mortgage company. Trump Mortgage shuttered in September 2007. According to the Washington Post, the company never paid a $298,274 judgement it owed a former employee, nor the $3,555 it owed in unpaid taxes.

7. Trump Steaks
When Trump filed for bankruptcy on his Atlantic City properties for the second of three times, court records showed he owed the Georgia company Buckhead Beef some $715,240. Two years later, in 2007, Trump struck a deal sell Buckhead Beef through the futuristic gadget store the Sharper Image. CEO Jerry Levin would later tell ThinkProgress it was “a bad business idea.”

“[W]e literally sold almost no steaks,” Levin said. “If we sold $50,000 of steaks grand total, I’d be surprised.” The steaks were pulled from shelves after just two months of abysmal sales, but the Trump Steaks commercial has, blessedly, been preserved for posterity.

8. Trump’s travel site
Like many of his business ventures, GoTrump.com was a gaudier version of an existing product — the travel booking website Travelocity, in this case. It launched in 2006 to low expectations: Henry Harteveldt of Forrester Research told the Washington Post it was a “vanity site” that wouldn’t make much money. He was right; it folded in 2007. Trump never gave up the URL, though — today it directs back to his campaign website.

9. Trump’s comms company
Trump registered a trademark for Trumpnet under the category of “corporate telephone communication services” in 1990. Whatever it was going to be, it never got off the ground; the trademark was abandoned in 1992.

10. Trump Tower Tampa

The 52-story Trump Tower in Tampa wasn’t conceived of or proposed or drafted up by Donald Trump — he just sold the use of his name to developers of the $300 million condo project for a cool $2 million. They, in turn, collected downpayments from individual buyers drawn in by the Trump mystique. After the project went belly-up in 2008 (it listed two scale models and some office furniture, worth a grand total of $3,500, as its only assets in bankruptcy court) buyers sued Trump for misleading them. He eventually settled, in some cases for as little as $11,115, with plaintiffs who had lost hundreds of thousands of dollars.

11. Trump University
Also known at the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative, Trump University was a series of wealth-building seminars for which students paid as much as $34,995 for mentorships that would supposedly get them access to Trump’s secrets of success. Instead of the hand-picked instructors Trump promised, the seminars were delivered by motivational speakers, often without degrees, and sometimes with criminal records. According to his FEC filings, Trump brought in $11,819 from the Trump Entrepreneur Initiative last year; he’s now the subject of two class-action lawsuits in California related to Trump University, and a third suit, for $40 million, brought by New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman.

12. Trump Vodka
Trump Vodka — “Success Distilled,” to quote its press materials — appeared in 2006. Trump said at the time, “I fully expect the most called for cocktail in America to be the T&T or the Trump and Tonic.” The liquor flopped, maybe in part because of Trump’s reputation as a teetotaler didn’t inspire a lot of confidence in his taste in hard alcohol. The trademark was abandoned in 2008, and the liquor was out of circulation by 2011.

13. Lost future earnings from calling Mexicans rapists
Trump kissed millions of dollars in future earnings goodbye last summer when he called Mexicans rapists and criminals in his campaign announcement speech. “Yeah, I’m losing some contracts, who cares, people – politically they’re weak and they want to be politically correct,” he said at the time.

and more..............

For instance, he was dumped by NBC, the home of Trump’s beloved Apprentice franchise. According to his FEC fillings, Trump brought in some $213 million over 14 seasons of the franchise, or about $15.2 million per cycle. He had left the door open to return to Celebrity Apprentice, but NBC eventually announced it was finding a new host.

Then there were Trump’s cologne brands, Success by Trump and Empire by Trump, which were sold exclusively by Macy’s until both the retailer and the cologne maker dropped the mogul. (Unfortunately for Trump, he didn’t have that excuse in 2007, when Donald Trump: The Fragrance — his first foray into the market — was discontinued.)

Likewise, Macy’s discontinued Trump’s line of menswear, which it had carried for 11 years. According to his financial disclosure, it brought in between $1 million and $5 million — not the kind of money a man who once cashed a 16-cent check would spit at.

And Serta announced it would stop selling its Trump-branded mattress, which, according to Trump’s FEC filings, brought in another $1 million and $5 million in royalties every year.

And these are just some of the major failures. This doesn't even begin to discuss his real estate failures of which there have been many since the 70's.

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