Ford Racing ProCal Tune

[TicTocTach]

Looks like they pulled the graph and replaced it with text:

Horsepower and torque gains throughout the powerband

• 35 HP peak gain at 2,900 RPM
• 76 Lb.Ft. Torque peak gain at 2,600 RPM

I’m still happy with those numbers...

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[Cardude99]

Looks like they pulled the graph and replaced it with text:

Horsepower and torque gains throughout the powerband

• 35 HP peak gain at 2,900 RPM
• 76 Lb.Ft. Torque peak gain at 2,600 RPM

I’m still happy with those numbers...

Lol that's funny. Apparently they read the comments

Btw are you getting one soon now that it's out?

 

[TurboStang18]

If those numbers are accurate, that's a pretty healthy tune. That would put my 2018 at 345 hp/426 torque. plus maybe a bit added from the Garret Intercooler....Nice....
And now the pics are showing it comes with an air filter, as FRPP told me. When this shows up at my house it's going to be like opening up a Cracker Jack box, I'm not sure what toy I'm getting.
I placed my order last week at Levittown Ford Parts. Parts guy said they are expecting a shipment from FRPP later this week. Meanwhile, A forum member is having fun on the stage 1/93 tune from the COBB Accessport I sold him last week, and I am tuneless for another week or two. I don't remember my car being as slow as it is now.

 

[TicTocTach]

Lol that's funny. Apparently they read the comments

Btw are you getting one soon now that it's out?

Damn straight. I’m going to ask my local dealer on Saturday if I don’t lose my weekend.

 

[TicTocTach]

I didn't notice on my phone, but they also added a graph of the HP / TQ gains vs. RPM. Really unusual way to show the info:

 

[SVO MkII]

I didn't notice on my phone, but they also added a graph of the HP / TQ gains vs. RPM. Really unusual way to show the info:

Hmmm...that graph is not that appealing. The 15-17 tune added close to 100 hp in 5-6K RPM range. This shows only 15-25 hp in that same range. I think I'll pass.

 

[TicTocTach]

I’m still not sure this graph is a meaningful representation of what the tune does. I’d also think that upper rpm gains were more than 10hp/tq.

 

[SVO MkII]

I’m still not sure this graph is a meaningful representation of what the tune does. I’d also think that upper rpm gains were more than 10hp/tq.

Yes, they were in the first chart that Ford posted. Not sure why they decided to post this updated chart. It tells a very different story, if it truly represents gains over stock at the various RPM ranges.

 

[white15gt]

That’s weird showing that 35 HP gain at 2900rpm on graph. I would expect it to be a max gain at that rpm, NOT peak as they state in their text.

• 35 HP peak gain at 2,900 RPM
• 76 Lb.Ft. Torque peak gain at 2,600 RPM

HP peak for our engines occurs at around 5500 rpm.
Totally confused about this calibration now.

Peak does not mean max power. Peak gains, meaning the most horsepower gained compared to stock, was at 2900 rpm.

 

[SVO MkII]

Peak does not mean max power. Peak gains, meaning the most horsepower gained compared to stock, was at 2900 rpm.

Oh gee, I thought the engine really put out a total of 35 hp peak. Thanks.

 

[white15gt]

Oh gee, I thought the engine really put out a total of 35 hp peak. Thanks.

No need to be snarky.

Just because the engine makes its best power at X RPM doesn’t mean the upgraded tune will make the most power gains at the same RPM.

 

[SVO MkII]

It's worth taking another look at the dyno chart Ford published for the 15-17 tune (below). Compare the HP delta between stock and FP tune. At approx 6K rpms, the tune is showing 300 hp, compared to stock at 200 hp. The absolute values of 300 vs 200 are not as relevant as the relationship, i.e., a 50% improvement. The "improvement" graph that Ford has recently published for the 18-19 tune shows only a 15-25 hp improvement in the 5-6k range. We don't know what baseline hp reading this improvement is compared to, but I assume it is more than 30-50 total actual hp? So again, this latest graph from Ford shows a significantly smaller improvement at the top end for the 18-19 tune compared to the 15-17 tune. I'm hoping there is some updated charts forthcoming.

 

[Cardude99]

You have to remember the 18+ has over boost. So they can only get so much more out of it. I would bet a Ford tuned 17 and 18 (6speed) are equal in power and tq or at least really close.

 

[SVO MkII]

You have to remember the 18+ has over boost. So they can only get so much more out of it. I would bet a Ford tuned 17 and 18 (6speed) are equal in power and tq or at least really close.

That would make sense. And the first graph that Ford released for the 18-19 showed a very similar relationship between stock/tuned as the 15-17 did. But then they replaced that original chart it with this "improvement" graph, which tells a completely different story. Again, I'm hoping they are still looking for the "correct" graph and that we will see a revised one put up soon. We'll see.

 

[Cardude99]

That would make sense. And the first graph that Ford released for the 18-19 showed a very similar relationship between stock/tuned as the 15-17 did. But then they replaced that original chart it with this "improvement" graph, which tells a completely different story. Again, I'm hoping they are still looking for the "correct" graph and that we will see a revised one put up soon. We'll see.

I think the revised graph is cause all of us were bitching at the power levels instead of focusing on the gains. My theory is they saw the posts and decided this was the best way to fix it outside of doing a new dyno. Just my best guess.

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