Just about ready to buy until...

[Ed M]

To the OP: how valuable is your time? What do you like to do as a hobby? Are you concerned about the future value of your car?

If you like to work on cars, then go ahead and mod the snot out of a ‘16 GT. Just realize that if you eventually have to sell the car, you will be selling ... a ‘16 GT. All of those mods will have zero to negative impact on the resale price.

Ultimately, you must test-drive the models you are interested in. How is the fit/feel? Are there features that are must-haves? Only you can answer those questions.

Edit: Gaglug beat me to it...

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[thehunterooo]

I wish I could dump my junker :(

 

[bluebeastsrt]

I wish I could dump my junker :(

Why? Do you want a Camaro?

 

[thehunterooo]

Why? Do you want a Camaro?

Yes

 

[LSchicago]

Mods?

Bone stock, factory fresh?

100% bone stock on factory 255 P Zero's. Under 700 miles on the car. Full weight plus all 340# of me. I set the rear tire pressure at 22PSI though. Fronts were 32PSI.

 

[LSchicago]

Lots of different forms of stock

100% stock as it left the dealer, except I set the rear tires to 22PSI and it has a Cervini's C series grille. 100% full weight and all factory parts except the grille intact. I weigh 340#, so it was a bit heavy. I didn't try any other tricks, and all runs hot lapped because it was not crowded.

 

[LSchicago]

For those who have not seen the video. One of the 11.92 runs is after the Vette/Hellcat race.

 

[JCF204]

Pretty awesome results.

 

[swooshdave]

Wicked fast.

For those who have not seen the video. One of the 11.92 runs is after the Vette/Hellcat race.

 

[brucelinc]

High 11s are pretty common with 2018+ A10s when running in good air. LSChicago's is unique in that he did it on horrible Pzero tires. How he avoided killer wheel hop on the 1-2 shift is a testament to excellent track prep where he ran....and I am not discounting his result at all. I had the same tires as him and so do some other guys who run at my track. We all suffered from wheel hop regardless of tire pressure. Here are my results (car 9318) with better rubber and with a very gentle launch:

 

[I <3 Boost]

So I am finally a buyer, I had convinced myself that the new A10 was what I wanted and am only waiting until spring to get mine. I live in Colorado so not much sense in buying one right this minute...But the research is well under way and I may wind up building /ordering what I want. I would like to keep this car for several years.

But with all of the noise regarding the engine tick / rattle and some A10 issues I am seeing, would I be much better off with a 2017 GT / Auto? The used prices are hard to beat and that leaves a lot more $$ for mods.

Is the 6spd auto reliable enough for a supercharger and daily driving? I don't plan to go crazy on power because this car will be my daily driver and I need it to be reliable as well as fast. I plan to do the normal Steeda suspension mods, different wheels etc. And at some point soon, forced induction.

Please give me your thoughts. I consider the opinions hear heavily in my choice.

Having owned both a 17 and 18 (both purchased new), I wish I still had my 17 GT, instead of my 18.

 

[JCF204]

Having owned both a 17 and 18 (both purchased new), I wish I still had my 17 GT, instead of my 18.

Would you mind sharing why that is the case?

 

[SpeedLu]

It's really down to things like personal preference, how much a dollar means to you, and the value you place on old vs new.

Is my 2019 twice as good as your 2016 at twice the price? I'd say yes but that's based on my personal bias. For my take, a 2016 even with 0 miles on it is an old car. One with over 600 miles on it would be a used car and not new. A three year old used car vs a brand new car isn't even a decision for me. Your 2016 doesn't have the amenities or options I want, and I value those amenities and options as worth it even though the sticker was in the low 50s. My value to price balance says that your purchase is a waste of $27k and wouldn't be worth it. Why would I waste that money on an old car that doesn't have what I want in the first place? $52k for the new car with the things I want was a better value proposition for me.

Clearly for you, your answer is the exact opposite of mine. Everyone is going to be at a different point of the price/value decision, and that's cool. That's the way it is, and that's the way it should be. We all make those value decisions. As long as the person making the decision is happy with their decision, then more power to them.

A 2016 with 0 miles on it is an "old" car. LMAO now I've heard everything.

 

[I <3 Boost]

Would you mind sharing why that is the case?

I've actually owned 3 Mustang GT's (each purchased new) - 14 (manual), 17 (manual), and 18 (auto). The 18 is my least favorite Mustang. I have modified each car with full bolt-ons within the first 500 miles of ownership. I finally opted for an automatic because I planned to boost it with goals of running 9's someday. Each car was driven like I stole it after the break-in period. Every car has been problem and symptom free, excluding my 2018. I'm very hesitant to boost it. I know that everyone continues to claim that the engine noise is not an issue and should be problem free. My engine was quiet until approximately 4,000 miles, until it developed the notorious rattle - that was not present in my previous coyote motors or any other direct injection car that I have owned. I plan to send an oil sample to Blackstone Labs within the next few weeks to determine if there is any presence of metal in the oil.

The 18 is the fastest and highest whp Mustang that I've owned, with fewer mods (stock intake manifold and injectors).

I have owned numerous modified, high horsepower cars. I'm sure that not every 18 -19 coyote motor will have issues, but I am concerned. I haven't taken it to the dealership yet. I'm still debating on boosting it and taking my chances. Simply put, I don't have a ton of confidence in the new platform. I have had some issues with the transmission not shifting into the next gear during WOT as well.

 

[IPOGT]

Buy a nice, used 2015-2017 GT, automatic car and mod the living snot out of it.

Yeah, the 2018/2018 cars with the A10 might be an improvement over the A6 cars, but there is no 'effing way a new A10 car will be better than a well-modded A6 car, i.e. full Steeda suspension, supercharger, long-tubes, and a good tune.

A well-modded 2015-2017 car will slay any stock or nearly stock 2018/2019 A10 car. And for less $$$.

And then there are gonna be guys that are gonna immediately say, "...well, a well-modded 2018/2019 car will beat a well-modded 2015-2017 car..." O.K., but when you mod a new car, say good-bye to your warranty. And if you are going to piss your warranty out the window; why didn't you just buy a used 2015-2017?? Duh...

For what a 2018/2019 is going to cost you, you could put less money into a 2015-2017 car that can have top-notch suspension, brakes, easily live at 650hp/500 ft/lbs, and have every premium option under the sun. Why peeps are buying new S550's is beyond me....?

QUIK EDIT: I realize not everyone has the money, the space, the tools, the knowledge, or the desire to "mod" their cars. But due to the price difference, I would still pick a 2015-2017 car over a 2018/2019 car any day, because there isn't enough of an improvement in the newer cars to justify the huge difference in cost to buy.

We were given a gift compared to the 18+ cars. Really.

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