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I'm not sure where you've been, but the mustang has kicked the camaro's ass year in and out since the introduction of the 6th gen. You were the one that pulled the "but rental sales" flag. :crazy:

So either prove it or shut up.
In sales ya not performance, and I'm not claiming sales mean a better cart thats you
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haha yea so if i was to look at the vet vs ford gt. I have no interest in either from an owners aspect. looking at the their specs and cost the vet wins, you know you can compare cars with no intrest in owning. sorry you can't get that idea
So, you’re telling me that if someone gave you a Ford GT, you wouldn’t take it due to your complete disinterest in it? Give me a break.

Side note: if you’re not interested in getting either, then you shouldn’t be comparing them. Period. Why does it matter how one performs or how much less one costs if you’re not going to buy it? This is an absolutely moronic position, and it reflects on your perspective through this whole conversation
 

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I used that term because your statement seemed completely unsupported. For the 1000s time, we're talking about the car as a whole. Your approach seems to be that because the stock 1LE outperformed a PP1 GT, that the Camaro is the better car, and in reality all that means is it has better performance. You can't just say the Camaro is a better car, at best you can say it's a better performing car, stock.
Honestly, there is no arguing this with him anymore. He is oblivious to the concept.
 

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So, you’re telling me that if someone gave you a Ford GT, you wouldn’t take it due to your complete disinterest in it? Give me a break.

Side note: if you’re not interested in getting either, then you shouldn’t be comparing them. Period. Why does it matter how one performs or how much less one costs if you’re not going to buy it? This is an absolutely moronic position, and it reflects on your perspective through this whole conversation
His argument is moronic. He looks at both, looks at the price and performance...completely ignores all other aspects of the cars and makes a blind decision. He then try's to argue what car is better based off of those individual points. He's clueless.
 

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I'm sorry, you absolutely are a troll. You argue against the mustang in every thread you're in. You contribute nothing to this forum...you are by definition a troll.
huh that so better go look back at how much I loved my 2014 and how much a praised how great the 2015 was over the 14, your gonna try and call me out back it up. and I'm not talking bad about the mustang I love the new one and would have a pp2 if a ford dealer wanted to deal. my 15 was having alot of issues and i wanted out and wanted a track performance car. the camaro wins sorry I don't daily my performance cars so i don't care about the trunk space. in performance camaro wins. we'll see if that holds up with the pp2
 

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So, you’re telling me that if someone gave you a Ford GT, you wouldn’t take it due to your complete disinterest in it? Give me a break.

Side note: if you’re not interested in getting either, then you shouldn’t be comparing them. Period. Why does it matter how one performs or how much less one costs if you’re not going to buy it? This is an absolutely moronic position, and it reflects on your perspective through this whole conversation
would i take a 400k car for free, hell yea who wouldn't, and why can't I compair a car i don't want. can i not be into cars and seeing how two competing cars stack up against each other cause i enjoy competition
 

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would i take a 400k car for free, hell yea who wouldn't, and why can't I compair a car i don't want. can i not be into cars and seeing how two competing cars stack up against each other cause i enjoy competition
So, you’re saying you DO have interest in the car. Glad we got that out of the way.

You can compare them if you don’t want them, but don’t use that as a grounds to only compare one aspect of the car. If you’re going to compare cars, you compare ALL aspects, regardless of whether or not you’re going to buy them.
 

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So, you’re saying you DO have interest in the car. Glad we got that out of the way.

You can compare them if you don’t want them, but don’t use that as a grounds to only compare one aspect of the car. If you’re going to compare cars, you compare ALL aspects, regardless of whether or not you’re going to buy them.
well since I'm concerned about performance thats what I look at which is exactly what iv been saying this while time, camaro wins performance mustang wins everyday living. but In a performance car obviously you look at performance
 

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well since I'm concerned about performance thats what I look at which is exactly what iv been saying this while time, camaro wins performance mustang wins everyday living. but In a performance car obviously you look at performance
OK, so here's a theoretical question, as I'm sure this doesn't apply to the current cars, but I'm curious to hear your thoughts.

Your focus is on a performance car, and let's say we have Car A and Car B. Magazine tests show that Car A is generally faster around a track than Car B, with both being stock. You're lucky enough to be able to test drive both on a track one day, and it turns out that because of the lacking visibility in Car A, you end up slowing down more in some corners, and you actually turn faster track times in Car B. Which is the better performance car, and/or which car would you buy?
 

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well since I'm concerned about performance thats what I look at which is exactly what iv been saying this while time, camaro wins performance mustang wins everyday living. but In a performance car obviously you look at performance
So,if you’re ONLY looking at performance, why not buy a Vette? Check mate
 

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OK, so here's a theoretical question, as I'm sure this doesn't apply to the current cars, but I'm curious to hear your thoughts.

Your focus is on a performance car, and let's say we have Car A and Car B. Magazine tests show that Car A is generally faster around a track than Car B, with both being stock. You're lucky enough to be able to test drive both on a track one day, and it turns out that because of the lacking visibility in Car A, you end up slowing down more in some corners, and you actually turn faster track times in Car B. Which is the better performance car?
depends, can I adapt to the vision issue, and since thats the argurment I'm 6'1 and have zero visability issues. yea it is a cockpit feel but vision is no issue for me. would i want to live with it on a daily driver, no, but that's not what it is. performance per dollar is where the camaro wins and what i was looking for and what anybody who is gonna use the car would want.
 

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depends, can I adapt to the vision issue, and since thats the argurment I'm 6'1 and have zero visability issues. yea it is a cockpit feel but vision is no issue for me. would i want to live with it on a daily driver, no, but that's not what it is. performance per dollar is where the camaro wins and what i was looking for and what anybody who is gonna use the car would want.
Well, I wasn't talking about the Camaro, and let's say you can't adapt - which car?
 

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cause of the price, a 1le was 40k out the door your not touching a new vette for that so noy check mate
But you can get a hell of a barely used C7 vette for $40k, so again, why not get that?
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