Sponsored
Manders Mustang
The Boss
- Joined
- Dec 3, 2015
- Threads
- 96
- Messages
- 12,999
- Reaction score
- 2,441
- Location
- Birmingham - United Kingdom
- First Name
- Steve
- Vehicle(s)
- 2016 Race Red Ecoboost
- Vehicle Showcase
- 1
Isn't the whole point of a mustang to be a cheap, sports car (muscle car), in which it had a shitload of power relative to its price bracket?
and isn't a TVR just using a mustang engine to create specialty smaller run variants?
Or am i missing something. There's plenty of "muscle" cars out there. you could argue the Ftype is one, among others.
wildcatgoal
@sirboom_photography
What are you on about, man?
The Mustang was never what a TVR Griffith is intended to be.
It was just a cheaply made car and consequently not considered "soft" (aka, refined expensively) until very recently, when they started finding reason to jack the living everlovin' out of its price because apparently an IRS, that they pilfered basically from a Ford Fusion, costs a whole bunch more... and stuff. I mean, it started out as a damn secretary's car and in the 80's and 90's was largely a piece of junk. But not HARD.
The 2018 Mustang is now as much as (or more than) a Corvette was not too long ago, when equipped with desireable features. It's as much as an M3 was not too long ago.
There is no car that exists that is what the Mustang "used to be", not even the Mustang.
That said, I'd have a TVR Griffith all day, every day, and twice on any extra days global warming gives us when it runs our planet off its path around the sun... it's EXACTLY what I feel a sports car should be and IMHO surprisingly cheap for a non-mainstream brand with a beautiful supercar-like design. Still too expensive.
If anything, the Mustang GT needs to be at least 200 lbs. lighter. That shouldn't make it "less soft" it should make it "a better car".
The Mustang was never what a TVR Griffith is intended to be.
It was just a cheaply made car and consequently not considered "soft" (aka, refined expensively) until very recently, when they started finding reason to jack the living everlovin' out of its price because apparently an IRS, that they pilfered basically from a Ford Fusion, costs a whole bunch more... and stuff. I mean, it started out as a damn secretary's car and in the 80's and 90's was largely a piece of junk. But not HARD.
The 2018 Mustang is now as much as (or more than) a Corvette was not too long ago, when equipped with desireable features. It's as much as an M3 was not too long ago.
There is no car that exists that is what the Mustang "used to be", not even the Mustang.
That said, I'd have a TVR Griffith all day, every day, and twice on any extra days global warming gives us when it runs our planet off its path around the sun... it's EXACTLY what I feel a sports car should be and IMHO surprisingly cheap for a non-mainstream brand with a beautiful supercar-like design. Still too expensive.
If anything, the Mustang GT needs to be at least 200 lbs. lighter. That shouldn't make it "less soft" it should make it "a better car".
Sponsored
Manders Mustang
The Boss
- Joined
- Dec 3, 2015
- Threads
- 96
- Messages
- 12,999
- Reaction score
- 2,441
- Location
- Birmingham - United Kingdom
- First Name
- Steve
- Vehicle(s)
- 2016 Race Red Ecoboost
- Vehicle Showcase
- 1
but, the unnecessary stuff, is optional?
Manders Mustang
The Boss
- Joined
- Dec 3, 2015
- Threads
- 96
- Messages
- 12,999
- Reaction score
- 2,441
- Location
- Birmingham - United Kingdom
- First Name
- Steve
- Vehicle(s)
- 2016 Race Red Ecoboost
- Vehicle Showcase
- 1
I don't disagree, but, in reality the S650 will bring it down.
Sponsored
willisit
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Feb 9, 2016
- Threads
- 9
- Messages
- 534
- Reaction score
- 91
- Location
- Denmead, UK
- Vehicle(s)
- Mustang, Monaro, DeLorean, Viva, S5, 600F
The TVR Griffith isn't even what a TVR should be, or was, in any way, shape or form. Sure, it's "okay" to my eyes (I saw it at the NEC recently), but it's just not mad enough.
It's also ÂŁ90k. So, there is that. Even if I could spend that, I wouldn't on a TVR.
Each to their own, of course. I think the Mustang is exactly the car it is supposed to be today.
It's also ÂŁ90k. So, there is that. Even if I could spend that, I wouldn't on a TVR.
Each to their own, of course. I think the Mustang is exactly the car it is supposed to be today.
willisit
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Feb 9, 2016
- Threads
- 9
- Messages
- 534
- Reaction score
- 91
- Location
- Denmead, UK
- Vehicle(s)
- Mustang, Monaro, DeLorean, Viva, S5, 600F
With the Mustang now a "World car", it's more likely to be designed to fit with wider tastes, and therefore look a little softer and "European", so whilst I agree, I don't see it.
v8hgt
Well-Known Member
- Joined
- Mar 31, 2016
- Threads
- 53
- Messages
- 1,233
- Reaction score
- 445
- Location
- Cheshire, UK
- First Name
- Nick
- Vehicle(s)
- Race Red GT PP Coupe
- Vehicle Showcase
- 1
Things change over time. The mustang (and Chevy/Dodge) are no longer the cheapo parts bin pony cars of the 60’s - 80’s. Having said that, a new mustang in base spec is still comparatively a bargain.
A fully spec’d £50k my18 is not really in the spirit of pony cars and puts it well into European performance car territory, which is no bad thing as it means ford will need to up their game to sell any!
The new TVR isn’t exactly in keeping with their tradition either. Sure it’s still a small sports car that uses a mildly tuned American V8 with a manual box. But the styling is subdued and the price (certainly of the launch edition) moves it into the next league.
When I had my TVR chimera 450 (late 90’s early 00’s) they were priced like a bmw z3 3 litre , merc SLk or bog standard cayman. For that money you could choose British eccentricity, mad styling, superior performance at the expense of economy, Germanic build quality etc.
I would prefer tvr stuck with that formula rather than trying to compete with a 911 / jag f type svr etc on price. Maybe once the halo launch edition is out of the way we might see a cheaper watered down version priced against the jag f type 3.0 and BMW Z4 etc
A fully spec’d £50k my18 is not really in the spirit of pony cars and puts it well into European performance car territory, which is no bad thing as it means ford will need to up their game to sell any!
The new TVR isn’t exactly in keeping with their tradition either. Sure it’s still a small sports car that uses a mildly tuned American V8 with a manual box. But the styling is subdued and the price (certainly of the launch edition) moves it into the next league.
When I had my TVR chimera 450 (late 90’s early 00’s) they were priced like a bmw z3 3 litre , merc SLk or bog standard cayman. For that money you could choose British eccentricity, mad styling, superior performance at the expense of economy, Germanic build quality etc.
I would prefer tvr stuck with that formula rather than trying to compete with a 911 / jag f type svr etc on price. Maybe once the halo launch edition is out of the way we might see a cheaper watered down version priced against the jag f type 3.0 and BMW Z4 etc
Sponsored
