tech.Yours is base or tech package?
That's fine. When there's a failure and they blame the cooler (which isn't covered), let me know how that works out for you.There is a big difference between installing a catch can that requires regular maintenance and CAN damage an engine if not regularly emptied....and a transmission cooler that (when installed properly) will require no maintenance and will increase the transmission life. If you can't see that, I feel sorry for you.
I fully understand, it can be hard for you to see through the maro mullet sometimes.That's fine. When there's a failure and they blame the cooler (which isn't covered), let me know how that works out for you.
I have never had an issue. 20 track days over the past two years all in Texas or OklahomaJust wondering - those who track their 2015 - 17 that have the performance pack 1 are they experiencing over heating? I frequent the Road Course, Track, Autocross, HPDE forum and only see it mentioned once or twice if that. So is it an issue because there appears to be people tracking the hell out of their cars.
Why would a mullet be hard to see through? I think you're missing the point of a mullet.I fully understand, it can be hard for you to see through the maro mullet sometimes.
I should have known, the mullets always come in pairs.Why would a mullet be hard to see through? I think you're missing the point of a mullet.
That's a great argument and it's exactly what I thought when I chose to buy my GT350 tech package car. I'm a relative novice at the road course. I only intend to drive around the track a few times a year, so I will never become an expert. I live in the northern tier of states. I plan to avoid warmer days. The track I go to has 20 minute sessions.I think people are getting way ahead of themselves. When you think about it, most people who buy these cars won't be tracking them anyway. Of the ones that do track them, will they be able to push the car hard enough that it'll need the coolers anyway? I think Ford did that so that people, the ones who do track hard, won't be out there overheating their cars and starting up lawsuits. I don't think these cars actually will overheat. But Ford is saying "hey if you go out in 105 degree temps in the middle of Summer and push your car to the rev limiter for half an hour and it overheats then don't come crying to us". So if a bunch of people do that, then they can say that everyone was already informed about it and it isn't their problem. I think that is a good approach. But the key is that each individual out there should see if they do need the cooling before going out and buying stuff. If they do then it becomes an issue of voiding the warranty. And I can see both sides of that argument.
Yes but perhaps Ford learned a few things for the refresh and applied them. Maybe the same thing won't happen with the 18s. But then again who's to say it will or won't. I think GM took a note from what happened with the Z06 and designed the ZL1 to not overheat. I would give Ford enough credit that they would do the same thing on a redesign. Unless they just made a car that can be pushed harder than the 15-17s and told people "you're on your own with the overheating, buy a cooler or something..."That's a great argument and it's exactly what I thought when I chose to buy my GT350 tech package car. I'm a relative novice at the road course. I only intend to drive around the track a few times a year, so I will never become an expert. I live in the northern tier of states. I plan to avoid warmer days. The track I go to has 20 minute sessions.
I can't fault you at all for thinking that, because it's exactly what I thought. Then I went to the track on a day where it started in the low 50s and the high temperature was 69F. The car went into limp mode within 6 minutes on the first session in the morning.
That's why I have posted warnings to anyone considering buying the PP2 who might go to the track. Just be ready to add coolers. That's all.
And the GT350 has a different transmission with a much higher redline...so we really don't know if the MT-82 will have the same issues as the tremec.Yes but perhaps Ford learned a few things for the refresh and applied them. Maybe the same thing won't happen with the 18s. But then again who's to say it will or won't. I think GM took a note from what happened with the Z06 and designed the ZL1 to not overheat. I would give Ford enough credit that they would do the same thing on a redesign. Unless they just made a car that can be pushed harder than the 15-17s and told people "you're on your own with the overheating, buy a cooler or something..."
I would like to think that Ford learned some things or that they are going to change what they do, but I don't know for a fact that either has happened. So my recommendation would be to wait and see rather than buy one of the first PP2 cars intending to track it. I could have visited the track quite a few times with the money I spent last year on replacing my transmission.Yes but perhaps Ford learned a few things for the refresh and applied them. Maybe the same thing won't happen with the 18s. But then again who's to say it will or won't. I think GM took a note from what happened with the Z06 and designed the ZL1 to not overheat. I would give Ford enough credit that they would do the same thing on a redesign. Unless they just made a car that can be pushed harder than the 15-17s and told people "you're on your own with the overheating, buy a cooler or something..."
HAHAHA!Why would a mullet be hard to see through? I think you're missing the point of a mullet.
This isn't internet lore. This is real life experience due to issues on cars in the past. GM isn't the only company that has denied warranty claims over non stock parts.I fully understand, it can be hard for you to see through the maro mullet sometimes.
Again, I’m sorry you can’t see the difference between a transmission cooler and an oil separator. I feel sorry for those (such as yourself) that bow down to internet lore and would therefore lack the cojones to add an item to your vehicle that would be impossible for any manufacture to prove caused failure.
Seriously though, try to find any instance of Ford denying a warranty on a transmission from an aftermarket cooler. Or better yet, call any Ford dealership and ask them…if they install the Ford racing transmission cooler (as recommended from the owner’s manual), if it would void the powertrain warranty.