GT500 testing in Arizona

[thePill]

I wasn't going to post this but since you persist to heckle, how bout reading the Merriam-Webster definition of the word 'radiator' - "any of various devices (such as a series of pipes or tubes) for transferring heat from a fluid within to an area or object outside."

So, there are in fact, 10+ radiators as I stated before, within the loins of the heatsoak-prone ZL1.

Take care, buddy...

You can see in the diagram you linked of the 10 heat exchangers that the intercooler for the turbo is out front, then the AC condenser THEN the engines radiator.

The ZL1 needs an AC delete BAD!!!

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[DrumReaper]

you showed me.:frusty:

How many coolers, Radiators does your GT350 have?

4

 

[DrumReaper]

On a completely different note, how do you guys think the Mustang will keep it's weight down to or less then the ZL1? I'm guessing CF hood, fenders but where else do they go, without gutting the car? Should be safe to guess that adding FI we'll add 100-150 lbs. putting the weight at roughly 4K. Do you guys think they reconstruct the frame at all and use some CF to try cut out another 150-200 lbs?

I suspect they will use the 350 chassis as a benchmark, which will bring over all the CF parts there (sans CF wheels) and the wider track. Of course the powerplant is still in questions so we will not know he exact weight savings but I'm sure a 3.5TTDIV6 (Ford GT based) will likely weight less than a 5.2CPC TTDIV8. Then you have to figure in the new auto... necessary coolers... and the. We start getting a little more exotic.

Base Level
Lightweight alloys on the corners (~20 pounds each), no back seat, radio-delete, no AC, Recaros and CF driveshaft. Hopefully that would weigh-in less than 3850 given that a base R is around 3700.

 

[BmacIL]

:gossip: please lol

It roars with greater than 8/7 a Hellcat from 22 cups. It shifts with the speed of a related supercar. It has lightweight materials in unusual places. It has rear tires the size of the bearing that Captain Marko Ramius gave Jack Ryan when they had a torpedo chasing them. It has light brakes that fill wheels the size of huge pizzas. It uses some 'screws' to do some cool things.

 

[ttime500]

I suspect they will use the 350 chassis as a benchmark, which will bring over all the CF parts there (sans CF wheels) and the wider track. Of course the powerplant is still in questions so we will not know he exact weight savings but I'm sure a 3.5TTDIV6 (Ford GT based) will likely weight less than a 5.2CPC TTDIV8. Then you have to figure in the new auto... necessary coolers... and the. We start getting a little more exotic.

Base Level
Lightweight alloys on the corners (~20 pounds each), no back seat, radio-delete, no AC, Recaros and CF driveshaft. Hopefully that would weigh-in less than 3850 given that a base R is around 3700.

Well I guess that leaves us some questions we really need answering. Like are they really going to use a V6 TT, I haven't really even heard that rumored. I don't really see why they wouldn't bother going to a V6 TT when it's no more fuel-efficient. And if it's at a competitor with the ZL1 i'm not sure I really see them doing a gutted out R model. The only way I see them having a weight of 3750 or less is to revise and lighten the frame.

 

[DrumReaper]

There will be absolutely NO factory S/C Mustang under 3800 pounds on the S550 platform unless they incorporate a 100% aluminum unibody and a majority of aluminum suspension components.

The TTV6 has been debated as nauseum in this forum.

 

[StangFever2846]

It roars with greater than 8/7 a Hellcat from 22 cups. It shifts with the speed of a related supercar. It has lightweight materials in unusual places. It has rear tires the size of the bearing that Captain Marko Ramius gave Jack Ryan when they had a torpedo chasing them. It has light brakes that fill wheels the size of huge pizzas. It uses some 'screws' to do some cool things.

Twin screw (or Roots?) supercharged 5.2L making over 808 hp through a super fast shifting 10 speed auto with huge carbon ceramic brakes and 315 tires on a lightened chassis using aluminum and/or carbon fiber to keep the weight down.

 

[BmacIL]

Twin screw (or Roots?) supercharged 5.2L making over 808 hp through a super fast shifting 10 speed auto with huge carbon ceramic brakes and 315 tires on a lightened chassis using aluminum and/or carbon fiber to keep the weight down.

close . A few details need tweaking, but you get the idea.

 

[ttime500]

Twin screw (or Roots?) supercharged 5.2L making over 808 hp through a super fast shifting 10 speed auto with huge carbon ceramic brakes and 315 tires on a lightened chassis using aluminum and/or carbon fiber to keep the weight down.

So I'm thinking maybe the gerteg DC from the GT?!! Maybe the screws are twin turbos, lightweight CC brakes? and hopefully some aluminum or CF in the unibody to offset added weight. I was thinking its possible if they expect to use the same unibody construction for the S650 it could be carried over from these halo cars to the future s650 cars knowing that cost can be spread among all.

 

[DrumReaper]

I think the s650 will be an awakening of sorts... the platform has to change to be able to accommodate such forward thinking as coupled powertrains and AWD.

The new chassis will also have to be more "global" so shortening it up a little and lowering the weight will be the main goal, while being able to still stuff it with Ford safety innovation and creature comforts.

The layout also has to be modifiable to accommodate a TTV6... it's coming. May not be in the s550, but you can bet your bottom dollar it will in the s650.

 

[65Terdlingua]

Does the S550 use aluminum control arms upper and lower and all the links in the back? The knuckles are all aluminum, right?

 

[JWS]

350 uses Aluminum Knuckles. Some links are Steel. Lower Control Arms appear to be Al

 

[Darkane]

It roars with greater than 8/7 a Hellcat from 22 cups. It shifts with the speed of a related supercar. It has lightweight materials in unusual places. It has rear tires the size of the bearing that Captain Marko Ramius gave Jack Ryan when they had a torpedo chasing them. It has light brakes that fill wheels the size of huge pizzas. It uses some 'screws' to do some cool things.

Interesting a 5.5L.

I can't quite see ceramic brakes but it's possible.

Are they using a composite subframe in the front? News of that was just released but no better way to test on a limited vehicle, just like the carbon wheels.

808hp is huge too.

 

[JWS]

350

Aluminum

 

[ttime500]

I think the s650 will be an awakening of sorts... the platform has to change to be able to accommodate such forward thinking as coupled powertrains and AWD.

The new chassis will also have to be more "global" so shortening it up a little and lowering the weight will be the main goal, while being able to still stuff it with Ford safety innovation and creature comforts.

The layout also has to be modifiable to accommodate a TTV6... it's coming. May not be in the s550, but you can bet your bottom dollar it will in the s650.

I agree with all that. Is that S550 not already capable of AWD? I think they'll us the TTv6 from the raptor as it'll achieve much better fuel efficiency than the version from the GT.

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